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Bigrock · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject:

I haven't seen an official poll yet, but here's my vote anyway.

Fix the Packery Jetty area as it was originally voted to be fixed.

As a TOURIST, when I'm thinking of coastal recreation, the CC-PA-PINS area is my NUMBER ONE destination. I don't want resorts, gift shops, condos and such, I want oppurtunities to fish and CATCH within the short time periods I have available. Depending on time, season and weather I like to have an option as to where to go and how to approach a days fishing. To me, the more options the better.

I joined CAC months ago to help with our access and use of PINS. What can a TOURIST do to help with things like the Packery Jetty situation.

Chef Lefty · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject:

Great discussion gentlemen. Tough subject with our voted people, government, etc. having a say in all. Oh well...Go to church tomorrow, thank a service man along the way, and best of luck on the water! Happy Labor day.
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Gib · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: Amen

Amen Chef Lefty!!

ironmanstan · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:11 am Post subject:

Spend some of that money on fixing up Laguna Shores rd. It won't be long before they change the name to washboard rd. Very Happy

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OutCast · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:53 am Post subject:

I enjoy Packery the way it is. I appreciate tourists. I wasn't living here when the votes were tallied for beach access rights and the Packery project. I appreciate the work so many people have taken to support the freedoms that many often take for granted.

I hope that common sense will prevail and that the State/GLO will not let any county build any permanent structure between the DUNES and the TIDE LINE...It is not cost effective to build and maintain facilities placed in this area. The jetties afterall are a by-product of the channel. The channel should remain the priority.

I dont know all the background info, but I do know how good the government likes to make things sound in order to get voter approval to spend taxpayer money that they don't already have.
Everybody likes pretty, I prefer natural and the less disturbed the better when discussing beaches. Afterall I'm from Florida, but that will never happen here hopefully. We dont need a East coast flair either w/ a boardwalk an all. I would like to see the things you are fighting for Johnny, just not as you picture them regardless of what was promised.

PS: I already dislike the wood bridge over the dunes, however it will make good projectiles to damage the condos that will be built there.

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:36 am Post subject:

As someone who only gets to come down and fish every year or two, I LOVE the Packery jetties!!!! ANY structure is good structure on a structureless coast, and any exchange of water is a GOOD thing!

I agree that all of the money spent shouldn't be wasted on just letting them "silt in".

Cripes, I'm not even an engineer type, but as soon as I saw Packery jetties I thought to myself that they were at least 1/4 - 1/3 mile too short to last long without having to dredge the channel mouth....................... it ain't rocket surgery, just common sense and a little knowledge of what currents do on a regular basis!!!! Rolling Eyes

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The Trash Heap · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:13 am Post subject:

Guys, in a perfect world the state would have stopped the construction of the North Padre seawall on state land. That was the fly the old lady swallowed. The Packery Project was the spider swallowed to combat the erosion that followed, and the project itself has left us paying to dredge the channel to protect the investment. I didn't design the jetties or pass the ordinances promising the jetty parks, but I'm damned well paying for them because my streets are suffering along with those in Flour Bluff until the Packery TIF finishes what was started. Anyone not liking the design and operation of what's on the books already, show me an alternative that works better and still recoups that investment, and we'll approach the City Council to fight for it together. I'll tell you right now that not building the parks plays into the hands of the developers still trying to close the beach and privatize the sides of the channel, so you won't see me backing that option, much less letting the channel silt in.

Bluffer · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:34 am Post subject:

I'll take Johnnys side on this one. To bad the city didnt give us what we voted for. That channel will bring millions to the economy and hugely benefit the eco system. Even though the island Tax-payers disagree.
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CC Bug Man · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject:

OutCast · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject:

If the planning were up to me, I would utilize the land between the boat launch and the dunes on both side of the channel to build what was proposed. I don't think they need to build a playground or anything sexy, but some picnic tables, outdoor showers, restrooms, HC parking/access and a continued walkway from the jetties along the channel would be decent. Yes, they would probably need to compensate some landowners on both sides of the channel, but I bet in the long run that would be cheaper than trying to maintain improvements closer to the beach.

I know the area would get trashed, just like the jetties. But if it made the taxpayers feel like they are getting thier monies worth and what was promissed that would go a long way.

The improvements help the nearby land owners, developers and local government so much more than the taxpayers regardless. I'm sure that will help sell all the condos on Zahn. It's great for the tax base (at least 10x undeveloped land). Perhaps with a greater tax base they can take care of all the roads and sewers that nead so badly to be fixed (to many areas to name).

This is the 1st full year the boat laucnh was open and already they are getting dredged/upgraded. That should go back on the initial construction/plan. What city has no insurance or protection clauses for their projects? Seems like the lowest bidder approach is bad business to me.

Whatever course is undertaken, I support improvements and growth so long as it's not bad for the beaches and access to them.

Silver_King · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject:

Johnny I agree with your stands on the Jetty park and appreciate your work and efforts to make things right out there. Thank You very much.

If I didnt have to work week days id be there everyday but i cant now and weekends are just way too crowded.
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The Trash Heap · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject:

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