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Tyler
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TailStalker wrote:
Guess this board still hasn't changed. A person can't give their negative opinion about a place without being attacked.

I can fully understand them sending you to the manufacturer to handle the warranty issue. Being rude however, that's poor customer service no matter where it is. If everyone can post about how great, helpful and friendly they are, then this person can post about their negative experience as well.


I have been watching this. It is just that Roy's has been good to most of us. However this is not the first time an issue like this came up and I showed it to Rocky at Roy's. No business is perfect and he addressed the issue last time. I may have to wait a while as I have other dragons to slay at the moment. Thanks for everyone's patience.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People occasionally hire sub-par employees, this time of year is extra stressful on retail, I could come up with lots of excuses. Don't know if the person your wife and son encountered truly was a 35 year vet or not, hard to tell being you apparently weren't there. But this board is almost purely loyal to Roy's, and as Tyler already said, the issue is already being addressed. Sorry they had a bad experience, but honestly complaining to us about it is the equivalent of complaining to a wall. We have 1000s of positive experiences with them on this board and sponsorship, and 1 bad experience out of 1000s is going to garner this type of reaction.

Typically they don't even sell bad products, but I don't want to accuse your son of misuse of rod, so to speak. Saltwater takes a heavy toll on all that enters it, and that's all we truly have to go by. Regardless of the 'experience' of CS y'all faced at Roy's, I agree: this needs to be addressed with the manufacturer, not the retail store - especially after 5 uses.

If I may share my personal experience with Roy's: I went in there to find a decent surf rod and reel combo. Jeff approached me, not me to him, about what I was looking for. Jeff, as I found out later is a member of this board and a part time PI guide as well - set me up with a Dolphin Tica 10' rod. When I asked about the reel, he asked me what I already had. He told me my 6000 Penn Pursuit II would be perfect for this rod, and to this day I use this rig as my primary surf rod. He could have easily upsold me to a more fancy reel, but he didn't - so I bought the rod alone along with a few surf weights. That, to me, just isn't customer service, but it's expertise. They have it at Roy's.

Maybe the fella your son and wife encountered was just upset over the holiday crowds, was new and untrained - cold be several reasons - but I'm just asking you and your family, as a supporter of this board and Roy's (and yes, I think they're a bit overpriced now - here come the haters) you give them another chance. Remember, Black Friday - Christmas Eve is the hardest hit on retail. Stress may have been a factor here - not an excuse for good CS, but I'm just saying - give them another chance.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have shown this thread to my wife and son. First as I said in the beginning of this Roys is his favorite store. He even told my wife who had never been what a great place it was as they were getting out of the car. I also stated that most of my fishing equipment came from there. If I had stopped there everyone would have agreed with me and this would have been a nice happy thread. Instead I posted that when they took a rod back they were told by the manager working there that in his 35 years he had never seen that. They took it as basically him calling them liars. All that was wrong with the pole is that the rubber piece on the bottom came off. The amount of times in this thread that I have been told by people that were not there what happened is truly amazing. I also find it very ironic that i posted something about someone getting treated rudely and have received the treatment i have in this thread. My whole point in all of this is its not ok to be rude to people.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bd0202 wrote:
Regardless of the 'experience' of CS y'all faced at Roy's, .


How did I get drug into this??!?! Cool Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this cabin fever I'm seeing is a bittch.

I have shopped at Roy's and my comments are not directed at Roy's, but rather retail business as a whole.

Whatever happened to "the customer is always right"? Apparently it is now history.

I see a lot of retail businesses that are happy to represent a manufacturer and sell the product, but after they get their money they hide from the issue and try to push every problem in the manufacturers direction. If they are going to represent the manufacturer in selling the product and make a profit, then they should try to help their customer. The customer is theirs, not the manufacturers. They are the ones that need the customer to come back and buy from them in the future, not vice versa. The customer can buy the same product from many locations.

I'm not saying they need to directly deal with the problem or replace the item, but why can't the retailer tell the customer that the warranty is the manufacturers and they will help the customer get satisfaction on the issue. All it would take from the retailer would be a phone call or 2 to help resolve the issue and my bet is that they would have a happy customer that would come back in the future.

If I owned a small business this is exactly what I would do.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG i need to go to my safe space (the deep gut just south of pita) she be full of nice specs for 2 days (and no angry humans) Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheRealLagunatic wrote:
OMG i need to go to my safe space (the deep gut just south of pita) she be full of nice specs for 2 days (and no angry humans) Laughing


Yes!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheRealLagunatic wrote:
OMG i need to go to my safe space (the deep gut just south of pita) she be full of nice specs for 2 days (and no angry humans) Laughing


I X2 this about the specs.... it's been good for us too lately
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to report a hijacking...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have been wading in Copano bay on shell and mud doing really well on the fish for the last few weeks.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would like to report a hijacking...


Yeah, another PMS thread (piss and moan session) shot to hell by the dang fishermen!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Central Scrutinizer wrote:
bd0202 wrote:
Regardless of the 'experience' of CS y'all faced at Roy's, .


How did I get drug into this??!?! Cool Laughing


It's always your fault. Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheRealLagunatic wrote:
OMG i need to go to my safe space (the deep gut just south of pita) she be full of nice specs for 2 days (and no angry humans) Laughing


I need a love emoji. Tyler!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hoopsandhooks wrote:
I have shown this thread to my wife and son. First as I said in the beginning of this Roys is his favorite store. He even told my wife who had never been what a great place it was as they were getting out of the car. I also stated that most of my fishing equipment came from there. If I had stopped there everyone would have agreed with me and this would have been a nice happy thread. Instead I posted that when they took a rod back they were told by the manager working there that in his 35 years he had never seen that. They took it as basically him calling them liars. All that was wrong with the pole is that the rubber piece on the bottom came off. The amount of times in this thread that I have been told by people that were not there what happened is truly amazing. I also find it very ironic that i posted something about someone getting treated rudely and have received the treatment i have in this thread. My whole point in all of this is its not ok to be rude to people.


I'm personally not disagreeing with you here and in fact my heart is in the same place for you and your family, but it is unfortunately a second hand complaint that you did not personally experience, so that leaves credibility as a variable to us simpletons here. If I had been treated the same, you're damn right I'd be upset too, and ultimately the store should take SOME responsibility and at least attempt to contact the manufacturer for you if they refuse to fix the issue themselves. Also, the piece that we are referring to is a very simple fix you can do on your own with super glue; now why they would refuse to fix that in the store correctly - when they have the equipment to do so - is beyond me. Again, I am sorry for the experience they had, I believe it could have been handled MUCH better than it was. But sometimes, with lots of products (not just fishing but everything), going straight to the manufacturer is the easiest solution. Retail wants you to jump through hoops, because in the end, a return or exchange hurts their numbers, and numbers is all retail relies on anymore - not CS (customer service, not that weirdo on this forum LOL). It's just the world we live in now. Quantity, not quality has become the norm. Even in small business. They're all running from Amazon or joining forces with them.

All my point was, is, please give them another chance in the future. Maybe not immediately, but do give them another chance.

rodandroll wrote:
Whatever happened to "the customer is always right"? Apparently it is now history.


That was never a catch phrase in the biz and never will be one, because it's flat out not true when it comes to a business protecting loss and assets. It was actually coined by a rogue "customer service consulting group" in the 70s and/or 80s and it took popularity with the general public, but not really with real business. The few businesses that actually did buy into have moved away from that now; the majority are all working along the lines of "resolve the customer's issues as quickly as possible and without losing as much profit as possible." The quickly part is directly related to the customer's ability to destroy the reputation of a business on the Internet by simply posting social media complaints. So just like in the law system, "settle, settle, settle" is the key. This is also why private businesses have the equivalents of what we in the Public sector call "Public Information Officers" to patrol the company's social media and respond to negative comments to patch the leaks before they get bigger. Wink

It's a pop culture myth. In the end, you'll be given a store credit, a free night stay, extra airline miles, some of your money back, and only in extreme cases (if you hold out long enough), all of your money back plus some complimentary extra (all in a gift card format so you're forced to use their brand again).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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