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jocc Finger Mullet
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:55 am Post subject: Keeping fish overnight |
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Hello Everyone,
If I keep my fish on ice and wait until the next day (24 hours max) to fillet my fish.
Is it OK to keep them whole until the next day or is it better if I remove the gills and guts?
Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions. |
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3582 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:15 am Post subject: |
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'On' ice, and 'under' ice are two different things. For up to 24 hours, on sufficient ice is fine. More than that, I'd make sure the fish stay under the ice, and draining the water isn't totally necessary. Just keep them under the ice.
Some long range party boats go days at a time, and they just add ice on top of the catch (no gut & gill) and they do just fine. I've had fish go upwards of three days with nothing but ice in the cooler.
Some anglers prefer to gut & gill and then ice them down, but I'm not convinced it's worth the extra step - short of having less of a mess when you finally begin cleaning fish. |
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deputydawg Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Do like CS said and you will be fine. On our 60 hour tuna trips they just go into a big chest with ice and arent gutted or gilled. I also do it all the time on regular trips.
Good luck! |
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bulldog1935 Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:48 am Post subject: |
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it's better to knock their heads and fillet them right away, then keep the fillets in ice water - 3 days in floating ice is fine - they just get better.
There were some guys at the dock last week watching me throw my big red head first into the concrete bulkhead.
(parallax error with a short focal length, these fish are 22" and 25")
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reallifetexan Pony Mullet

Joined: 08 Jun 2013 Posts: 79
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| I've heard (and witnessed) bashing the heads of tuna in with a club to preserve the freshness of the meat, but I haven't heard of or seen this done on any other fish other than when Prof. Salt uses Mr. Night-night stick to subdue a cobia before bringing it into the kayak. Is this practice also valid for other fish such as reds and trout? |
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bulldog1935 Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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yes, before you take a fillet knife to them

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rodandroll Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 1814 Location: Kerrville, Tx
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| bulldog1935 wrote: | | it's better to ... fillet them right away, ..." |
WHY???? _________________ Now that food has replaced my sex life I can't even get into my own pants!!!!!!!!
Even duct tape can't fix stupid ... but it can muffle the sound!!! |
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bulldog1935 Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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BECAUSE less bile and blood in the meat
(rained in much)
and if you can eat them without freezing them (3 days in ice water is ok) the meat will be tender, flaky and not rubbery
I learned this from my Rockport guide buddy in the 80s - there was always an ice chest in his garage with fillets and floating ice.
(from me, he learned fly fishing)
Also, drain fillets on paper towels 20 minutes on each side, and spice the side that is up - I learned this from a chef.
btw, duck tape is a brand name, it was War Dept spec'd in WWII for a quick waterproof field repair.
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| bulldog1935 wrote: | | (parallax error with a short focal length, these fish are 22" and 25") |
I'm sure Mr. Game Warden bought that explanation, TOTALLY!!!!!
Me,.... I'm deleting the evidence, as the concept of parallax is typically applied to distant objects, and that bottom fish looks to be .... "cold" [There was Shrinkage!!!]
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bulldog1935 Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Even Seinfeld is bigger than he appears in that photo
the ruler is on top of a 2x8 drain board (2x4s stacked on end), holding the camera freehand over the fillet table and shooting at about 5mm focal length
serious parallax error (20mm focal length would have small parallax, you'd only see 5 inches of fish unless I stood on a ladder)
I would be the last to dispute my buddy's 22" measured red
here's my more or less measurement photo of the larger on my boat paint marks (still with parallax error from angle) - it measured 25"
this one measured 21", but hard to see the difference in a cropped photo
this 27" is easier to work out, because the net opening is 19" and the reel diameter is 3-1/2"
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Johninaustin Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: |
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I always gut and gill before they go in the cooler, I don't use stringers. I have no idea if it's neccesary or not, that's what my grandaddy taught me.
As for time, I've had trout and reds in ice for two days without any issues at all. |
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FoldCatOne Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Nice fish!! _________________ Gary J
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mtfish Finger Mullet
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| Personally, I do not like keeping fish on a stringer unless wading. I also like to ice the fish before filleting so the meat firms up, making a cleaner fillet. Maybe not such a difference on reds, but big difference on trout. Never bashed a red or trout head, seems redundant as I already killed it once. To the original question, if fish are kept on deep ice, no problem to clean the next day. See my above comment on firming up the meat. |
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Jonty
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lifeaquatic Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Jonty wrote: | | HI If I keep my fish on ice and wait until the next day (24 hours max) to fillet my fish. Is it OK to keep them whole until the next day or is it better if I remove the gills and guts? |
Best answer to the original question in this thread
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