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jocc
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject: Keeping fish overnight Reply with quote

Hello Everyone,

If I keep my fish on ice and wait until the next day (24 hours max) to fillet my fish.

Is it OK to keep them whole until the next day or is it better if I remove the gills and guts?

Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'On' ice, and 'under' ice are two different things. For up to 24 hours, on sufficient ice is fine. More than that, I'd make sure the fish stay under the ice, and draining the water isn't totally necessary. Just keep them under the ice.

Some long range party boats go days at a time, and they just add ice on top of the catch (no gut & gill) and they do just fine. I've had fish go upwards of three days with nothing but ice in the cooler.

Some anglers prefer to gut & gill and then ice them down, but I'm not convinced it's worth the extra step - short of having less of a mess when you finally begin cleaning fish.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do like CS said and you will be fine. On our 60 hour tuna trips they just go into a big chest with ice and arent gutted or gilled. I also do it all the time on regular trips.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's better to knock their heads and fillet them right away, then keep the fillets in ice water - 3 days in floating ice is fine - they just get better.

There were some guys at the dock last week watching me throw my big red head first into the concrete bulkhead.
(parallax error with a short focal length, these fish are 22" and 25")

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard (and witnessed) bashing the heads of tuna in with a club to preserve the freshness of the meat, but I haven't heard of or seen this done on any other fish other than when Prof. Salt uses Mr. Night-night stick to subdue a cobia before bringing it into the kayak. Is this practice also valid for other fish such as reds and trout?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, before you take a fillet knife to them



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
it's better to ... fillet them right away, ..."


WHY????
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BECAUSE less bile and blood in the meat
(rained in much)
and if you can eat them without freezing them (3 days in ice water is ok) the meat will be tender, flaky and not rubbery
I learned this from my Rockport guide buddy in the 80s - there was always an ice chest in his garage with fillets and floating ice.
(from me, he learned fly fishing)

Also, drain fillets on paper towels 20 minutes on each side, and spice the side that is up - I learned this from a chef.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog1935 wrote:
(parallax error with a short focal length, these fish are 22" and 25")


Shocked Shocked Shocked

I'm sure Mr. Game Warden bought that explanation, TOTALLY!!!!!

Me,.... I'm deleting the evidence, as the concept of parallax is typically applied to distant objects, and that bottom fish looks to be .... "cold" [There was Shrinkage!!!] Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even Seinfeld is bigger than he appears in that photo

the ruler is on top of a 2x8 drain board (2x4s stacked on end), holding the camera freehand over the fillet table and shooting at about 5mm focal length

serious parallax error (20mm focal length would have small parallax, you'd only see 5 inches of fish unless I stood on a ladder)

I would be the last to dispute my buddy's 22" measured red
here's my more or less measurement photo of the larger on my boat paint marks (still with parallax error from angle) - it measured 25"

this one measured 21", but hard to see the difference in a cropped photo

this 27" is easier to work out, because the net opening is 19" and the reel diameter is 3-1/2"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always gut and gill before they go in the cooler, I don't use stringers. I have no idea if it's neccesary or not, that's what my grandaddy taught me. Wink

As for time, I've had trout and reds in ice for two days without any issues at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice fish!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I do not like keeping fish on a stringer unless wading. I also like to ice the fish before filleting so the meat firms up, making a cleaner fillet. Maybe not such a difference on reds, but big difference on trout. Never bashed a red or trout head, seems redundant as I already killed it once. To the original question, if fish are kept on deep ice, no problem to clean the next day. See my above comment on firming up the meat.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonty wrote:
HI If I keep my fish on ice and wait until the next day (24 hours max) to fillet my fish. Is it OK to keep them whole until the next day or is it better if I remove the gills and guts?


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