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gotmullet? Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 912 Location: Corpus
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: Ethanol Gas Question |
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I have heard of this come up, but what effects does Ethenol Addictive have on side effects on boat motors?
Is there a better Engine Oil than Mag 1 I should be using on my Johnson 8hp motor?
I have a 6 gallon tank on my Jon Boat and I typically only fill it half way.
Question being is that on cold starts my motor seems to lighty miss and once its warmed up and placed in gear I'm good.
I checked the 2 plugs and both seem fine.
Thanks in Advance. _________________ "Do not call my Jeep a Car ever again "
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ziacatcher Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 6558 Location: The Bluff
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I've been adding stabile marine additive (blue one) and have had little problems since. Have also been trying to get gas from Rudy's. No ethanol. |
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MASTERWADER Finger Mullet

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 46
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| the gas station on the corner of SPID and everhart next to chic-fil-a has ethanol free gas as well |
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ironmanstan Exalted Ruler of Flour Bluff

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Starbrite fuel additive works great. So does Stabil Marine fuel additive. Read about "ethanol and phase separation", that way you know what's going on in your fuel tank. IMS  _________________ I LIKE MINE FRIED. |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes, both do work, but the Stabil Marine had more of what's needed in it......hence the higher price. It's worth every penny!!!!
http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Yes, both do work, but the Stabil Marine had more of what's needed in it......hence the higher price. It's worth every penny!!!!
http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx
If you never use more than half a tank then it might be smart to get a smaller tank. The more air space that's allowed to remain in the tank the higher the condensation level taking place. I did this too: I now own a 9, 6 and 3 or 4 gallon tank and use the one that I need for the job. That's why it's SOP for fuel tank/fuel maintenance to fill all tanks at the end of use; boat, lawn mower, whatever. Vehicles don't usually sit for long periods between use so the problem isn't usually anywhere near as large. _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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robul Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| MASTERWADER wrote: | | the gas station on the corner of SPID and everhart next to chic-fil-a has ethanol free gas as well |
I know the website says it does. But have you tested it?
I use marine eth stabil treatment with every drop of e-10 that goes in my boat.. zero issues.. YET |
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Tyler Site Admin

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Stoner150 told me the Chevron at Waldron and SPID and that Rudy's off of Airline and SPID both have ethanol free gas. |
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noskunks Horse Mullet

Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 157
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| Do the newer motors need the treatments? My new (new to me) rig has an '07 HPDI Vmax 225. The previous owner said he was only running ring free, no additives for ethanol...do I need to start running some kind of treatment for ethanol? |
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Capt Mike Singleterry Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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robul Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| noskunks wrote: | | Do the newer motors need the treatments? My new (new to me) rig has an '07 HPDI Vmax 225. The previous owner said he was only running ring free, no additives for ethanol...do I need to start running some kind of treatment for ethanol? |
I would most certainly be using the marine eth stabil treatment on a bad boy like that.. |
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noskunks Horse Mullet

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| robul wrote: | | noskunks wrote: | | Do the newer motors need the treatments? My new (new to me) rig has an '07 HPDI Vmax 225. The previous owner said he was only running ring free, no additives for ethanol...do I need to start running some kind of treatment for ethanol? |
I would most certainly be using the marine eth stabil treatment on a bad boy like that.. |
thanks for the tip, I filled up with gas from Rudy's on the way out but it sounds like I need to be filling up on the way in. I'll try to run ethanol free only but know that won't always be the case so I'll pick up some ethanol stabil.
found this site and it lists four stations in CC reported by them as "ethanol free" including the chevron on the corner NE corner of Waldron and SPID.
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=TX
The boat also has a filter/seperator, any recommendations on how often to change it? |
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Huffster Finger Mullet

Joined: 14 Jun 2010 Posts: 47 Location: Fort Worth,Texas
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Guys,
What you doing with any of Ethanol treatments is trying to prevent the crap from separating and sinking to the bottom of the tank. It turns into a gel which will reek havoc on carburetors, fuel injectors and your wife's happiness ! I work in the Powersports industry and we see this time and time again, it will literally clog or ruin a dirtbike or ATV carburetor within a few months if left setting. It's corrosive and will etch metals once it dries out.
They say to keeping your tank 90-95% full will help. I say, unless you are refilling at least once a month, that will not prevent Ethanol separation from occuring...In short, the stuff is terrible for 2-strokes, in particular. Very bad for all the rest of the engines that have to run it ! |
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greenhornet2 Flour Bluffian in training
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| A mercury mechanic just recommended the mercury fuel treatment over startron or stabil, his comment which I thought made sense is that the others are made to work in everything from boats to cars whereas your factory product is made to fit your specific type of motor. Wasn't any more expensive than the startron I was using previously so I switched. |
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Bluffer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 4858 Location: The Bluff...Bring back the Porch!
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| ziacatcher wrote: | | I've been adding stabile marine additive (blue one) and have had little problems since. Have also been trying to get gas from Rudy's. No ethanol. |
X2.....believe its called Startron. _________________ -STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!- |
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