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Lord of the Hardheads · Horse Mullet Joined: 23 Nov 2008 Posts: 194

That explains all the boat parts on the jetty rocks Tuesday afternoon.
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The Trash Heap · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:42 am Post subject:

Caller-Times printed the LTTE on 7-31
http://www.caller.com/news/2009/jul/31/no-headline---letter_art_friday/
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Coach · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:44 am Post subject:

I have been driving a boat in freshwater for 25yrs minimum. I had to learn through experience and guidance. Driving at the coast is a completely different animal. I have noticed that coastal guys drive COMPLETELY different than freshwater guys. EX - passing an on coming boat. Fresh = cut the rollers and get back in the flat water Salt = ride the rollers out, up n down all 3 of them....why?

freshwater boats may assume that all there knowledge is transferable to saltwater situations,,,not so

Answer these q's:

2 ft waves coming in at an angle (parallel to the boats path). How do you drive? crest or trough or tack

How are these boats capsizing at Pack? The waves did not look bad..
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snakecan2 · Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject:

you cant fix stupid..
i know alot have ragged on the boaters in question and thank God that no one was killed.
Things happen on the water very quickly and there is little room for error. Guess experience is what keeps us floating and making judgment calls as to go, stay or travel via another port. we think packer jetties is a joke.. seen so many boats and even some 30's + in major trouble my port a jetties, even a sailboat refusing to get out of the way of a coast guard and tug boat, to only get pushed out of the way by a coast guard boat..
kind of funny to see a 40' sailboat try to play chicken with a fully loaded tanker.

makes me think twice about running in and out of packery jetties.. guess when i get me a boat again.. someone want to take me out... Smile

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landlocked beachbum · Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject:

Snake, it's not that big of a deal dude. I'm WAY more worried about the other morons running through the pass than I am about my little POS boat and seamanship skills. Just as in driving a car, we can only control what WE are doing, not what the other idiot is doing! Rolling Eyes

Defensive driving and planning WAY ahead [not driving off the front bumper................... or bow] is the same in a boat as it is in a vehicle. Alcohol, testosterone and machismo when combined with ZERO boating knowledge and a DGAS attitude are the cause of MOST boating mishaps.

I agree with another poster about boaters in saltwater. They seem to be even more rude and macho acting than those in fresh water, and THAT'S saying something! Shocked

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The Trash Heap · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:13 am Post subject:

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:35 am Post subject:

TH, at least we partially agree, and that my friend is a good thing! Cool

I'm referring to my experiences in fresh water here and in Alabama. There are jerks everywhere and yes, the bigger the boat the bigger the ego and the bigger the jerk for the most part. Having said that, Arkansas has some fairly strict boating laws but like everywhere else, way too few enforcers! Check this out: http://www.agfc.com/boating/boating-regulations/unlawful-dangerous-operation.aspx

In particular see "Improper speed or distance". Humanity never ceases to amaze me with the power to rationalize. 98% of boaters see a "No Wake Zone" and do just as you say: come off of a plane and push the largest wake possible!!!!! Rolling Eyes

The sign doesn't say "No PLANE Zone" !!!!!!!! Evil or Very Mad

This same 98% either don't care and surely most of them don't even freeking know this simple boating fact because of the first thing: they couldn't care less.................. "Rules, we don't need no stinking rules"!!!!!! Especially while getting crocked and showing their manliness!

I would MUCH rather someone just stay on a plane and zoom on by AS LONG AS it's at a reasonable distance, and there's the rub. I have rarely had a bass boater do to me as you say, but this ain't Texas either. I have had more passers by than not do just the opposite at Packery, in the ICW ANYWHERE, at Orange Beach Pass in Alabama, and at Destin pass in Florida, and most of these weren't in "big" boats, but of course some were. Cripes, on the last evening of my last trip to Destin I had to tell TWO "boaters" who were piloting HUGE freeking yachts to turn there damn running lights on...................................... one of them TWICE!!!! Shocked

The second idiot actually thought that I was yanking his chain the first time, or at least that was his excuse in front of his equally inebriated guests! Embarassed

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ironmanstan · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:19 am Post subject:

Back in the old navy days , I used to wonder about the fisherman you would see in their 14ft canoe with an outrigger and a single mast somewhat of a sail out there in the pacific with no land in sight. I mean this is after you have been at sea for 2 days. Guess those guys are the real Captains. Very Happy

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gdavis · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:21 am Post subject:

Freshwater people aren't any better... Powerboaters and jet skiers are the biggest nuisances. They all remind me of Ricky Bobby in Taladega Nights... Momma I'm going fast again!

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:48 am Post subject:

The Trash Heap · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject:

llbb, I don't think we disagree at all.

Isn't amazing they had to put all those examples of tom-foolery in writing?! I'm almost afraid some of those dummies reading the Alabama regs realized they'd not yet exhibited a few of those examples and promptly went out to pull the stunts for the first time. Sort of like the dilemma the missionaries ran into when it came to defining adultery in Michener's Hawaii.
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landlocked beachbum · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject:

You mean the Arkansas regs that I copied? The section that I pointed out was written almost specifically because of the morons up here who drive PWC's............................... I HATE those freeking things!!! It seems like what ever person jumps on one turns into a juvenile delinquent, and a drunk one at that!!!!!! Rolling Eyes

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