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killer
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: CHL and BIB Reply with quote

Heading to a Cabin with friends this weekend and leaving from Bird Island Basin. Anyone know the rules regarding carrying a concealed handgun with a license there? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, just make sure that you QTX before you MRZ. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guessing by Bird Island Basin you mean the boat ramp in PINS? Not allowed to carry inside the park. It was allowed for a time and then they reversed the ruling that allowed you to concealed carry in national parks. Once you're out on the boat and down in Baffin it's no different than if you were in a car driving or out in public. With the way things are in the park right now the odds of getting away with sneaking thru the park and leaving the boat ramp without getting caught are not good. They're looking hard at everyone and they've been doing alot of searching vehicles lately. Search old threads for info. It's an understatement to say that alot has been said about things on PINS lately.
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robul
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its illegal to keep a loaded weapon.. I still always took mine though when I was heading to cabins.. Secure the ammo and clips very far from the handgun so they are no accessable.. then You can legally have the firearm in your stuff.. Just make sure you tell them if they ask you.. Once you leave the park boundries ( other side of ICW ) you can rearm your handgun
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Jason Slocum
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Define loaded.... Reply with quote

From my understanding it has to be in the chamber to be technically loaded.... Meaning a you must (#@(@# your gun before its technically loaded... Can someone calrify this for me/others? Jason Slocum
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killer
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appreciate the reply. I heard the rules changed. Better knowing the rules than to have your license taken. Thanks.
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Mansfield Mauler
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been discussed pretty well previously...Try the forum search:
http://www.corpusfishing.com/messageboard/phpBB2/search.php


Check out JlKings posts here:http://www.corpusfishing.com/messageboard/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11268

Looks like we should get it back next February..

Jason, Notice the second quoted paragraph! This is from the current pins website http://www.nps.gov/pais/planyourvisit/things2know.htm
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Firearms

Loaded firearms are strictly prohibited. A Concealed Handgun License issued under the authority of the State of Texas, or another state, is not valid at the National Seashore.

Unloaded weapons may be possessed only when such weapons are rendered temporarily inoperable, or are packed, cased or stored in a manner that will prevent their ready use.


nazis!
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Jason Slocum
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: loopholes Reply with quote

I see a loophole here. If the safety is on and working properly the gun is technically "rendered temporarily inoperable" meaning if one pulls the trigger nothing is going to happen. Wink the second method having my gun "rendered temporarily inoperable" is not having a round chambered. Nothing will happen if you pull the trigger and the firing pin doesn't have a primer to hit Wink That's my story and I'm sticking to it... Jason Slocum
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RodBreaker
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: loopholes Reply with quote

Jason Slocum wrote:
I see a loophole here. If the safety is on and working properly the gun is technically "rendered temporarily inoperable" meaning if one pulls the trigger nothing is going to happen. Wink the second method having my gun "rendered temporarily inoperable" is not having a round chambered. Nothing will happen if you pull the trigger and the firing pin doesn't have a primer to hit Wink That's my story and I'm sticking to it... Jason Slocum


Do they have wifi in prison? We'll want to keep in touch with you.
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ironmanstan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robul wrote:
Its illegal to keep a loaded weapon.. I still always took mine though when I was heading to cabins.. Secure the ammo and clips very far from the handgun so they are no accessable.. then You can legally have the firearm in your stuff.. Just make sure you tell them if they ask you.. Once you leave the park boundries ( other side of ICW ) you can rearm your handgun


Just do what robul says,,,
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Drake
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Guns on PINS Reply with quote

Rodbreakers comment about wifi is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

Take the clip / ammo out and store seperate from the gun, not on your person. A trigger lock along with that will go along way. You know like you were going hunting in another country like, say Canada.

God that was hard to type.
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Uncle D
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just invite Drake for security(his avatar). I heard he'll work for beer and fishing.
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