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nickaway · Pony Mullet Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 75

Charlie and I agree that it is time for us to make a stand. Our rights as users to Padre Island National Seashore are being eroded by the park superintendant and staff. The latest rule change is the implementation of the 15 mph speed limit for the entire 63 miles of beach. This change was supposed to be put in for safety and turtle protection, but it is without any basis in research. The upper local management of the park is supposed to operate the park for the benefit of the people. The tragedy of this latest removal of our rights to enjoy the park is the fact that we have all worked hard and have enjoyed seeing the turtle program prosper, and now it is being used against us. The turtle program has been, and hopefully will continue to be a success, but the over zealous implementation of regulations will turn the fishermen against the program and the organizers, something Charlie and I brought up at the meeting we had with the superintendent. They don’t seem to have any concern or interest in the users, only in trying to turn the beach into a private sanctuary for Donna and her turtle program. Unless we show our concerns publicly we will be ignored as we have been thus far. We would like to conduct a peaceful public protest outside the park in the next few weeks. We are also open to suggestions as to how we might make this event more effective. Our objective is to bring it to the attention of our state representatives through the media.
The date for the protest and location are yet to be decided but your attendance and input will be valued. Please E mail me with any suggestions that you might require and please let us know if you would mind helping out with organization and planning. Regards Nickaway

This was written into law, lets not let them forget it.

In order to save and preserve, for purposes of public recreation, benefit, and inspiration, a portion of the diminishing seashore of the United States that remains undeveloped, the Secretary of the Interior shall take appropriate action in the public interest toward the establishment of the following described lands and waters as the Padre Island National Seashore:

TTRR · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject:

we could burn our national seashore passes at the entrance.

kidding, but keep us posted with what you come up with, i like the idea.

BALZTOWAL · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject:

YOU COULD ALWAYS BUY A RADAR DETECTOR AND GO 75 MILES AN HOUR WHEN NOBODY ELSE IS IN YOUR WAY. IF YA'LL DO PROTEST MAKE SURE YOU DON'T BLOCK MY WAY TO BIRD ISLAND.

chazthefisherman · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject:

Count me in Nick, I'll help anyway I can.
First we need to get the word out there.
Chaz

Hotshot · Finger Mullet Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 19

I pm you the entire item I found in the Federal Regulations. According to the Federal Regulation 36 CFR 7.75 - Padre Island National Seashore. The 25 mph limit is the entire length of the beach unless posted with signs or markers. Now are there new 15 mph speed limit signs the entire length of the beach. If there are I'm sure that was quite costly. It seems like we could do something about this change against the rights of the people and continue to protect the turtles.

Mudflap · Horse Mullet Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 127

We are going to lose our rights to the park the more and more the turtle program is successful. That is the scary truth. The more that come ashore, the more they are at risk. Doesn't matter that PINS is not their normal breeding area. Once a healthy population is started and they are coming ashore everyday, they will close the beach during the season. Where are you Big John. You chastised me about my stance that is was a matter of time on something else. Yet, where are we at now?

larry meinert · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject:

PM sent.

fishinglady · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject:

I agree that the limit for the entire length is a bit much. I would suggest that you have some alternatives to offer "the powers that be" to give them an "out", rather than just an "either your way or my way" confrontation....you can always stage the confrontation later.

Maybe suggest that they maintain the old ranch road behind the dunes that some people referred to in earlier posts. That way, people could use that road at higher speeds to get to the cut..and maybe have "beach access" roads ever so often --to the land cut and other points on the way down. That way, turtles are safe and people can get down island faster.

I did read in the paper in the last few days that two turtles were run over down on South Padre [last year I think it said]...maybe that is what led to the new speed limit here on North Padre.

STEVEBAIT2 · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject:

SOUND TO ME ? THEY BETTER HIRE SOME PERSONAL TO CLEAN UP
THE BEACH NEXT YEAR.
THE MORE YOU GIVE THEM , THE MORE THEY TAKE.
1 TURTLE FOUND DEAD LAST YEAR ? MAY HAVE BEEN IN A GILL NET,
SHRIMP NET OR RAN OVER BY A BOAT.
OR THEY GOING TO CLOSE SHRIMPING, BOATING IN NATIONAL
PARK WATER'S ?
I CAN'T SEE ANYONE RUNNING OVER A TURTLE FOR THE FUN OF IT.
COUNT ME NICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE MONEY THEY GOT OFF THE GOVERMENT GRANT LAST YEAR, TO
( CLEAN UP THE BEACHES) . THEY USE TO BUY THE 15 MPH SIGN,S.
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Bluffer · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject:

Count me in....Wont be long and the damm things wont be considerd "endangerd" massive turtles all over the beach. Turtle soup for sale as you drive in!
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JLKing · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject:

Problem is...

When it comes to the NPS, you're not dealing with an entity who's existence is dependent upon the satisfaction of those it supposedly serves (you and me).

You're dealing with a typical federal government agency with typical federal government appointees who feel they are beholden only to the next level of bureaucracy.

I don't think your legislators can help you.

PINS ultimately falls under the Department of the Interior, which falls under the executive branch, who in case y'all haven't noticed, isn't really on the side of sportsmen these days...

Wanna know who's opinion park superintendent Joe Escoto cares about?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/WASO_Org_Chart.JPG

Looks like his name is Mike Snyder.

Here are Mike's priorities for 2009-

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/2009/02/national-park-service-regional-director-shares-his-priority-list-2009

Some more about him at the bottom of this page-

http://www.peaceparks2007.org/prog_speakers.php

In doing some research, Snyder doesn't appear to come off as a foaming at the mouth, irrational tree hugger.

Maybe y'all would have better luck with him?

pool_rob9 · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject:

Funny thing yesterday...saw at least a half dozen park rangers and park employees and not one of them was doing 15! More like 30! Guess they think they drive better than we do or have faster reflexes. As for the turtle people in their artic cats, there were a ton of em and they were all quite nice and respectful of our camp. No complaints on them. They drove bout 5 mph.
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snakecan2 · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject:

keithc · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: New rules

I'm in!!!!! Need a day or three of thought and some checking around with friends in low places
Next thing you know there'd be restricting airspace so we can't use our dam helicopters to fly out our bait!!!
Remember??? They wanted to turn PINS into a practice bombing range??? Fairly recently ???
The area hasn't seen a good rip roaring island scouring hurricane in a while
Remember the Pemex Ixtoc bay of Campeche oil well blow out that the then governer of Tx(who has / had a vested interest) on that zillion mile oil slick said , quote "It's a bit to do about nothing"
Remember the tar and "tar balls"?? Miles of dead fish and
Idiots..... I wanna female dog slap them
Maybe inform those Austin lawmakers to at least know that the lobster they are eating is related to roaches and etc
What's next ??? Save the roaches????? Save the shrimp trees that grow shrimp for that shrimp thing?? Think I wanna a snail darter sandwich

Rudy · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:17 am Post subject:

TITLE 16 > CHAPTER 1 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1a–1Prev | Next § 1a–1. National Park System: administration; declaration of findings and purpose
Congress declares that the national park system, which began with establishment of Yellowstone National Park in 1872, has since grown to include superlative natural, historic, and recreation areas in every major region of the United States, its territories and island possessions; that these areas, though distinct in character, are united through their inter-related purposes and resources into one national park system as cumulative expressions of a single national heritage; that, individually and collectively, these areas derive increased national dignity and recognition of their superb environmental quality through their inclusion jointly with each other in one national park system preserved and managed for the benefit and inspiration of all the people of the United States; and that it is the purpose of this Act to include all such areas in the System and to clarify the authorities applicable to the system. Congress further reaffirms, declares, and directs that the promotion and regulation of the various areas of the National Park System, as defined in section 1c of this title, shall be consistent with and founded in the purpose established by section 1 of this title, to the common benefit of all the people of the United States. The authorization of activities shall be construed and the protection, management, and administration of these areas shall be conducted in light of the high public value and integrity of the National Park System and shall not be exercised in derogation of the values and purposes for which these various areas have been established, except as may have been or shall be directly and specifically provided by Congress.