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putawaywet
Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Location: Dripping Springs
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| BALZTOWAL wrote: | | BURG OF A VEH IS UPTO ONE YEAR IN JAIL BUT LIVING IN TEXAS AND PROTECTING YOUR PROPERTY FROM THIEVES AT NIGHT WITH DEADLY FORCE LASTS A LOT LONGER, |
Please be careful people and keep a cool head.
I have a friend who is up for murder at this very moment. Family business had been robbed repeatedly and he was fed up. Caught them at the fence line but did not fire untill they were on the public roadway.
Split second decision in the heat of the moment and there you have it.
25 years old with a wife and two kids.
Pretty freakin' scary, no?
Think it through. Don't kneejerk.
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Todd
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Location: Corpus Christi
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: BURG OF A VEH IS UPTO ONE YEAR IN JAIL BUT LIVING IN TEXAS A |
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BURG OF A VEH IS UPTO ONE YEAR IN JAIL BUT LIVING IN TEXAS AND PROTECTING YOUR PROPERTY FROM THIEVES AT NIGHT WITH DEADLY FORCE LASTS A LOT LONGER,
This is why I am so thankful that nothing happened over some freaking tools. It is a situation you have to keep a cool head in and I know this but unfortunately I was not in the right frame of mind and who knows... I do know I would have been more fezzed up if it were at my home so I need to re-evaluate the thought process to stay calm
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frayed
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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Location: Austin and a lil East of the Bluff
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| crab_n_fisher wrote: | | Tyler wrote: | | ironmanstan wrote: | First of all 99% of all the bad folks that slither around and sponge off the good folks here....came from somewhere else. like north from here.  The Bluff is actually a pretty cool place and stuffed with good people.  |
God's Country! |
Ironmanstan,
I understand your pro-ethnic slant. |
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rodandroll
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 1814
Location: Kerrville, Tx
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| putawaywet wrote: | | BALZTOWAL wrote: | | BURG OF A VEH IS UPTO ONE YEAR IN JAIL BUT LIVING IN TEXAS AND PROTECTING YOUR PROPERTY FROM THIEVES AT NIGHT WITH DEADLY FORCE LASTS A LOT LONGER, |
Please be careful people and keep a cool head.
I have a friend who is up for murder at this very moment. Family business had been robbed repeatedly and he was fed up. Caught them at the fence line but did not fire untill they were on the public roadway.
Split second decision in the heat of the moment and there you have it.
25 years old with a wife and two kids.
Pretty freakin' scary, no?
Think it through. Don't kneejerk. |
Question: Was it in Texas??? Was it in the republic of Austin?? If it was in the republic of Austin would not surprise me with Ronnie Earl the prosecutor. Anywhere else in Texas and I would be amazed. |
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ironmanstan
Exalted Ruler of Flour Bluff
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| RPool wrote: | | My theory has always been that people finding a different agenda or difficulty fitting into the norms of society keep on moving. Eventually, they hit the coast and can't go any further. Think about California - it explains so much. But they accumulate, giving the native sons a poor reputation. I've been fortunate to meet some great Flour Bluffians, mainly in Stan's garage, but good all the same (LOL). I like the idea of treating law officers respectfully with even the occasional perk they can't refuse. |
Well put sir. We need to do a FRY again soon. Like before summer. Oh, and yes my buddy frayed comes from the north ....sorta... but the good side of the north.  Man I need to stock up. And for someone else out there...remember the fish is hot when it comes out of the f-r-y-e-r.
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putawaywet
Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Location: Dripping Springs
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Question: Was it in Texas??? Was it in the republic of Austin?? If it was in the republic of Austin would not surprise me with Ronnie Earl the prosecutor. Anywhere else in Texas and I would be amazed.
It was in the Valley.
Prosecuter says he did not have reason enough to fire. They had not made it into the fence yet and could have been taking a leak or changing a tire. Although when he pulled up they all ran back into the car and hauled azz. He shot as they were fleeing.
The two survivors first said they had just stopped to relieve themselves and no stolen goods were found in the car.
Hidalgo county sherriffs found the fence cut the next day and they admitted they were planning on breaking in.
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Don't trust Whitey.
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frayed
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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Location: Austin and a lil East of the Bluff
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Did I hear somebody call for a FRY?? I'm comin' fer ya IMS. 
Seriously, I'll be down tomorrow for a long weekend. Is blackhawk operational again? Don't know what I need more at this point, a good fry or a cold cerveza. It's been a tough week. . . .
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ccbobber
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Location: The Island
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject: fry |
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jeff, the bar that is closed is the "porch". the bar where we met is the blackhawk. hope you have a good weekend.
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ironmanstan
Exalted Ruler of Flour Bluff
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| frayed wrote: | Did I hear somebody call for a FRY?? I'm comin' fer ya IMS.
Seriously, I'll be down tomorrow for a long weekend. Is blackhawk operational again? Don't know what I need more at this point, a good fry or a cold cerveza. It's been a tough week. . . . |
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THE_BLUFF_RAT
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Location: the bluff
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| huntnetime wrote: | I have lived in the Bluff for 8 years now. And for that 8 years, there's always been the usual riff-raff floating around the Bluff wandering aimlessly through time, but for the most part they have kept to themselves. Well, I think that is all starting to change, at least through my eyes it seems to be. I have seen what I believe to be prostitution going on, drug deals, drug users, and burglary on a scale I don't remember seeing it before. I live on a quiet dead end street two blocks from the police substation on Waldron and for the first time in 8 years, some scum bag decided my neighbors' property was better off in his hands. And no, he didn't go sneaking around at night knocking out a window. He parked in front of the house, walked up, kicked the door in so hard that pieces of the door were found on the other side of the living room, stole a big screen television, and didn't leave until he noticed one of my other neighbors coming back from walking his dogs. My dog-walking neighbor got about 200' from where the burglary was happening and the guy noticed him coming, got in his car and drove off. What kind of gall does it take for someone to do this at 4 o'clock in the afternoon? Imagine what his crimes will escalate to? It's sad. I see this area deteriorating before my very eyes. Thanks for letting me get on my soapbox.
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i have lived here in the bluff all my life and in some ways it has gotten so bad compared to when i was growin up. the latest problem happened only a few months ago. i live in the wharf appartments with my wife and my one year old boy. (if you're looking for an apartment...dont come to this sh** hole) anyway, we were hurtin pretty bad for some cash, so i sold my truck (my baby) for an amazing 2 grand. spent 100 bucks that night for gas and some food. that leaves me with 1900. told my wife to deposit the money the next day....i go to work, she had to run for some family emergency and didnt get the chance to make the deposit. i call her around noon to see how she was, she tells me shes out and the maintenance man is doing AC repairs. got a rotten feeling, so i head home and sure enough, the mo**** son of a ***** took the cash from under my coffe can upstairs.  i was so freakin steamed. called the police, filed a report, got ONE phone call a while back and thats it. ok..everyone listen carefully,,,,you ready?..............
THE MAINTENANCE MAN AT THE *****WHARF APTS.***** CAME IN MY HOME AND STOLE 1900.00
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frayed
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Location: Austin and a lil East of the Bluff
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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That's pretty brutal. Best of luck with that bluff rat.
I have a question about the bluff though. Earlier in this thread reference was made to the bluff's schools which I understand are independent of the cc school system. If the bluff is this rough, how can the bluff school system stay solid?
Back in my hometown of a whopping 5000 residents, when local businesses started hurting, the town started seeing a lot of crime and drugs. There is an undeniable link b/t strength of the local economy, employment rates, consequent tax base, and. . . the school system. My hometown today is now a shell of its former self, including a dysfunctional school system. One I'd never send my kids to.
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THE_BLUFF_RAT
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Location: the bluff
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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personally, i believe fbisd is a very good, solid school. and flour bluff as a town is a very good one, but when you have lived here for so long and lived in every corner, sooner or later, you run in to the not so nice parts of the bluff. generally, north of spid around NAS is not a great area along with the stone st. , dewitt st, weaver st, etc. along SPID between waldron and flour bluff drive. other than that, flour bluff is full of great neighborhoods and poeple. i grew up in the places i mentioned and its such a shame to see what it has turned in to.
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rodandroll
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Location: Kerrville, Tx
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| putawaywet wrote: | Question: Was it in Texas??? Was it in the republic of Austin?? If it was in the republic of Austin would not surprise me with Ronnie Earl the prosecutor. Anywhere else in Texas and I would be amazed.
It was in the Valley.
Prosecuter says he did not have reason enough to fire. They had not made it into the fence yet and could have been taking a leak or changing a tire. Although when he pulled up they all ran back into the car and hauled azz. He shot as they were fleeing.
The two survivors first said they had just stopped to relieve themselves and no stolen goods were found in the car.
Hidalgo county sherriffs found the fence cut the next day and they admitted they were planning on breaking in. |
It is now an allowed under Texas law to shoot to kill in defense of property. The prosecutor may well have a rough time with this. Does not help your friend I realize, but this is a perfect example of why we need to elect prosecutors who will follow the law and not try to create or twist it to meet their on personal philosophies. |
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huntnetime
Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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Location: Da Bluff
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| rodandroll wrote: | | putawaywet wrote: | Question: Was it in Texas??? Was it in the republic of Austin?? If it was in the republic of Austin would not surprise me with Ronnie Earl the prosecutor. Anywhere else in Texas and I would be amazed.
It was in the Valley.
Prosecuter says he did not have reason enough to fire. They had not made it into the fence yet and could have been taking a leak or changing a tire. Although when he pulled up they all ran back into the car and hauled azz. He shot as they were fleeing.
The two survivors first said they had just stopped to relieve themselves and no stolen goods were found in the car.
Hidalgo county sherriffs found the fence cut the next day and they admitted they were planning on breaking in. |
It is now an allowed under Texas law to shoot to kill in defense of property. The prosecutor may well have a rough time with this. Does not help your friend I realize, but this is a perfect example of why we need to elect prosecutors who will follow the law and not try to create or twist it to meet their on personal philosophies. |
It's a shame this dirtbag prosecutor is trying to turn your friend into the criminal here. BUT...I would expect any D.A. to send something like this to a Grand Jury. Is he actually awaiting trial? Hopefully a jury of his peers would acquit him. I would think that if he actually caught them in the act or at least were still on his property fleeing, then it would be a different story. Hoping the best for your friend and his family. |
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skunked
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Location: Corpus Christi
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| I believe that under the castle law, you still have to be in fear for the life of yourself and your family. It's sad to say, but the prosecuter will have an easier time than some think because the bad guys were not threatening anyone yet. Hopefully, he'll have an understanding jury. |
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