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landlocked beachbum
Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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The palomar is the most depenable knot that I have found, ESPECIALLY with slippery superlines. It CAN'T slip just by its physics. When using it on fluoro, great care must be taken when pulling the loops snug as one always seems to want to snug up first. Even when lubed with saliva, fluoro doesn't like to slip across itself much, and that's one problem when using it. ALL knots must be tied carefully and correctly! 
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blackhawk78418
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Im gonna try the palomar..Im gonna try braided line as well.. |
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GoinCoastal
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Location: Leander/Aransas Pass/ Wilderness Systems Pro Staff
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Palomar
Double uni
Uni Loop
I use these 3 and that's it. Palomar it the easiest knot for me to tie by far. And it holds!!!! I use it most o fteh time to tie on lures and terminal tackle. The double uni is for line to line like leader to braid. And the Uni Loop for topwaters or plugs that have lots o action.
The palomar and the uni knots are what Power Pro suggests for their braids because they won't slip. |
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Damo
Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
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Location: San Antonio
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Trilene knot and double uni get's it done for me.
The trilene doesn't slip when I use it and I can tie it in my sleep.
Need to learn a good loop knot next.
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Big Ed
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Palomar (or as my buddy insists on calling it, the Parliament) knot is by far the winner for tying on hooks, snaps, pre-made leaders etc. It is almost impossible to mis-tie this knot and the strength is excellent. This knot WILL NOT SLIP, period. Line to line is almost always the Uni, but occasionally I will use a Surgeons knot when I get lazy.
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DanTheMan
Finger Mullet
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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Location: Corpitos, Tejas
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| So The Palomar Knot It Is... Im Always Up For New Ways To Catch More Fish Thanks Fellas |
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landlocked beachbum
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Dude.................... you won't believe how strong it is and how easy it is to tie!!!! 
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Lost Cajun
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Location: Midland, TX
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| jp3 wrote: | | Quote: | | But How Is It To Tie 30lb Leader To It! Very Bulky |
I've used it up to 80 Flouro leaders for jigging offshore. It is a little bulky, but definitely manageable. and it works great. I watched some fishing show a while back where they'd been doing a knot-test tournament. I only saw the final match up, but it looked like they made a bracket with quite a few knots, probably 16-20. using scientific equipment so they could actually measure the breaking strength, the Palomar was the winner. After seeing that, I try to use it as much as possible. |
I saw either the same show or another where they did the same thing and two knots proved to be the strongest. They were the Palomar and the Trilene knots. Both knots held beyond the tensil strength of the line they were using. That was important to me because the Palomar (the strongest knot according to IGFA) can be difficult to tie to an artificial or a leader because you have to slip the entire rig through the loop.
I have used the Trilene knot without problems for years on trout and red fish, but I didn't know if it would be strong enough for the bigger fish like Tarpon, Jacks, and Kings I had recently started targeting. I haven't had much experience with it yet, but that show convinced me to give it a try in those situations. |
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Big John
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: |
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I have always used the improved clinch knot, and have never had a knot give out on me yet. Its easy to tie too. I think the palmoar looks interesting, but the hole has to be big enough to slip the line through doubled up. So forget using it with 3-0 or smaller hooks. I might give it a try on some of my bigger hooks when I make my next batch of leaders.
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blackhawk78418
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| i practiced tieing the double uni and palomar lastnite. im gonna start useing them thanks for the schooling guys.. |
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ArtificialB8
Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Location: Spring Branch, TX
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| Big John wrote: | | I think the palmoar looks interesting, but the hole has to be big enough to slip the line through doubled up. So forget using it with 3-0 or smaller hooks. I might give it a try on some of my bigger hooks when I make my next batch of leaders. |
Try threading the line through the eye without doubling it, then rethread the line back through in the opposite direction.....quicker and much less frustrating. |
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Big John
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| ArtificialB8 wrote: | | Big John wrote: | | I think the palmoar looks interesting, but the hole has to be big enough to slip the line through doubled up. So forget using it with 3-0 or smaller hooks. I might give it a try on some of my bigger hooks when I make my next batch of leaders. |
Try threading the line through the eye without doubling it, then rethread the line back through in the opposite direction.....quicker and much less frustrating. |
With hands as big as mine, that could get complicated. 
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kweber
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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the suergeons loop make a good dropper on a leader. I just loop a hook on each drop. very fast and easy knot.
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kweber
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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and BTW, many knots dont pass the "beer test". those that do are best  .
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Ray
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