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JDS
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: surf leaders and trout Reply with quote

Rainy day question.
When casting in the surf for trout at this time of year, (smacks thick) would it be a good idea to use a short, relatively thin leader? Last time I was down I did not do this because I did not want the leader to spook the trout but I lost a lot of terminal tackle because of it. Thanks,
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kyle
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

USE A FLOUROCARBON LEADER, MORE EXPENSIVE BUT PRACTICALLY INVISIBLE.
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IslandMike
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked something similar to this one time and the response was that trout and reds are not really leader shy. I really only use a leader on the rare occasions when I use bait. Just a personal preference.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not often, but I have caught trout from the surf on a steel leaders with live mullet while targeting redfish. The biggest was 20".
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A spanish will cut through florocarbon as well. Trout are very leader shy for the most part although they will occasionally be caught w/ a leader. When I fish for trout in the surf I use florocarbon. If the spanish are thick, I'll switch up tactics and go w/ steel.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually just use a 2' piece of 30-50# mono because of hits from smacks or the abrasive mouths of big skipjacks or bluefish. If you start getting cut off alot just use some 27# plastic coated copper colored wire leader. This is thin enough that even the shy strikers like smacks will usually hit it and it will hold up to the abuse. It can also be knotted (carefully) without use of crimps. I never use manufactured leaders with all the beads and garbage on them.
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JDS
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. JDS
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone use the brown tooth-proof 30lb single wire w/ haywire twist?
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Nailsy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

topdog15 wrote:
Trout are very leader shy for the most part although they will occasionally be caught w/ a leader.


I would disagree. I've seen many trout/reds caught in the surf using steel leaders. Most croaker fishermen tie salt shakers and beaded leaders to their main line hoping to increase their odds, and I know many professional trout anglers that tie artificials directly to braid with no "invisible" leader.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only ever get down to the Island for 5or 6 days at a time and only 5 or 6 times a year. I use whatever bait I catch in the surf. I never caught a trout ‘till I read on this site that trout don’t bite on stainless. I found black thin 12” leaders at Academy. I put two together with a hook in the middle and a weight on the end and caught 3 nice trout.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the same leader for everything, 40lb mono, only had it broken 2 or 3 times in 4 years. I could say flounder don't like it because I HAVEN'T CAUGHT ONE SINCE I MOVED HERE 4 1/2 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would disagree. I've seen many trout/reds caught in the surf using steel leaders

I didn't mean to imply that they couldn't be caught on steel, just that your odds are much better when not using such a highly visible material for a leader. I too have seen many trout caught on leaders, but I've seen many, many more on flourocarbon or mono.
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