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FoldCatOne Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 1159 Location: Kerrville
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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"I donated blood the other day at the blood bank and they did a free antibody test. Results be back in a week to 10 days"
What are they going to do with the blood in the meantime?? Not sure I want any of that blood and I don't mean to be mean. _________________ Gary J
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Ham Radio and Fishing - Is There Anything Else??
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ziacatcher Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 6556 Location: The Bluff
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I think if you have positive antibodies then you'll come back in another time to donate. |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Todays report is 1727 total CCP Virus infections in CC which represents an increase of over 600% over the last 10 days! Here is the report:https://corpus.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/fe742480193d4fff98f7af38c5104cfc
BTW, in the referenced report the Nueces County judge is requiring everyone, including employees and customers to wear mask in certain businesses structures. |
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ziacatcher Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 6556 Location: The Bluff
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Neither Mary nor I wanted to cook dinner tonight so I went across to Laguna reef to pick up a couple seafood baskets. None of the workers at the restaurant were wearing masks. I felt uncomfortable |
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Curlew0412 Finger Mullet
Joined: 23 Apr 2014 Posts: 40 Location: Rockport
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Yes, the number of cases have increased due to a combination of an increase in activity from openings and an increase in testing of the general public. However, to me, the key statistic is the actual number of deaths.
Nueces has had a total of 6 deaths in the 4 months from Covid or about 1.5 deaths per month. Statistics also show that the county averages about 3 traffic fatalities per month. Statistically you are about twice as likely to die in Nueces County in a vehicular crash than from Covid. |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| ^^^^^ It's this cavalier attitude which is our biggest problem right now. Yes, anyone can die in traffic, but they might only kill one other person in the event they are the cause, but anyone not taking the necessary precautions with the CCP Virus can end up infecting 100s and more importantly can cause the infection of one or more people with compromised health problems which ends up taking their life. That being said, the health professionals are beginning to learn the virus has long term effects on an infected persons vital organs. |
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Curlew0412 Finger Mullet
Joined: 23 Apr 2014 Posts: 40 Location: Rockport
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| Disagree. All that I did was to state facts based on statistics. I know of many people permanently disabled in car accidents. So it isn |
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rodandroll Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 1814 Location: Kerrville, Tx
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| ziacatcher wrote: | | I think if you have positive antibodies then you'll come back in another time to donate. |
Yeah, but what happens if they use the blood within the 10 day period and you had the kung flu? Somebody just got a big dose of it? _________________ Now that food has replaced my sex life I can't even get into my own pants!!!!!!!!
Even duct tape can't fix stupid ... but it can muffle the sound!!! |
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rodandroll Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 1814 Location: Kerrville, Tx
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| BayFly wrote: | | ^^^^^ It's this cavalier attitude which is our biggest problem right now. Yes, anyone can die in traffic, but they might only kill one other person in the event they are the cause, but anyone not taking the necessary precautions with the CCP Virus can end up infecting 100s and more importantly can cause the infection of one or more people with compromised health problems which ends up taking their life. That being said, the health professionals are beginning to learn the virus has long term effects on an infected persons vital organs. |
Curlew1402 is not showing a cavalier attitude. He is absolutely correct. The latest FACTS - NOT OPINIONS, show that the death rate is highest with people in nursing homes, next are people over 65 with medical complications, then we start getting to younger healthier folks. The death rate goes down to 2% in people under 40. So, if you are under 40 the death rate is no worse than that of the annual flu. What needs to be done, in a nutshell, is to open the economy to those who are younger and isolate the older population until a vaccine is developed. Bottom line - if you are younger, getting the kung flu ain't no big deal. Might as well let the healthy young people get it and get it over with. Oh, and by the way, a lot of diseases you get as a young person have long term effects - ever heard of shingles. It's a part of being alive, no point in cowering in fear in your closet.
The real problem is the MSM slanting everything for political purposes rather that giving us the real facts. _________________ Now that food has replaced my sex life I can't even get into my own pants!!!!!!!!
Even duct tape can't fix stupid ... but it can muffle the sound!!! |
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roberino Finger Mullet
Joined: 20 Dec 2018 Posts: 42 Location: Austin
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Death rate is low because its spreading fastest in the younger population. Old folks will not be able to avoid it once it has spread to everyone around them, and the deaths will follow.
Anyone who can convince themselves the increase in COVID numbers is just a byproduct of more testing, despite Houston filling its ICU hospital base capacity and San Antonio on track to fill theirs soon, is selling themselves a bill of goods. If everyone had it before but just were not getting tested then you would not see a rise in hospitalizations. Anyone who tells themselves a virus that has killed 120k Americans in five months and will kill a quarter million before Christmas is a political fiction can convince themselves of anything.
Greatest generation gave us 400k young men to win the war, but when someone is asked to ware a mask to protect the few of them we have left they whine about personal liberties. Give me a break
Stay safe, and think not about yourself but about those who could die if you spread it. The 300 kids playing beer-pong in Lakeway who got it will all probably be fine, but one of them will likely loose a grandparent or worse from passing it along to their families. They will never know the full impact of their part in spreading it to others. |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Totally agree with you Roberino. Today's Nueces County CCP Virus report is an approximate 688% increase over the number reported on June 17 and is 1915 total virus cases in Nueces County. Here is the report:https://corpus.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/fe742480193d4fff98f7af38c5104cfc |
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Jiggyz Pony Mullet
Joined: 11 Apr 2013 Posts: 57 Location: Austin
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:21 am Post subject: |
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So a few summary points:
On masks:
Generally we are talking about cloth masks and to a lesser extent some form of loose fitting surgical mask or "N95" type of mask. There is very little in the way of scientific evidence that that cloth mask wearing in and of itself is all that helpful given the vast differences in quality of mask and diligence with which the wearer fits that mask. I am not saying there is no benefit, it is just really difficult to study with controlled variables.
However, that is not to say that side benefits don't accrue from the practice. More mask wearing will heighten the general awareness of the population and may lead to more conformity with proven strategies like social distancing and general disinfecting. The mere pain in the supple bum factor may limit social interaction and unnecessary trips to places one would normally go and limit hand to face contact.
Therefore, I will wear a mask anytime there is the possibility of interaction within 6' of another person indoors or out. In general I will not wear a mask outdoors unless I have a job site meeting or something like it.
Health of the young:
We have limited data on the long term effects on the asymptomatic and light cases, but as has been mentioned, there is the observed presence of lung damage in these cases albeit with a small sample size at this point.
Additionally, there is a similar study group which has shown brain trauma mirroring the symptoms and presentation of stroke, brain inflammation, psychosis, and dementia-like symptoms. Again, a small sample at this early date.
The point is, is that there is some evidence at this point that the young and those with mild cases may have other longer term issues. So if I were young and had my whole life in front of me, I would probably ere on the side of cation, at least until some of these issues are explained away.
The spreading of the virus:
The notion that the number of cases has jumped due to solely to increased testing is false. If that were the case, the rate of positive test would be about the same. It has doubled in most areas (Texas).
As of March 29th the US had less than 5,000 deaths. As of today we are at 120,000 deaths in 3 months, not 5 months. Even if we continue at our lessened daily death rate of 500/day, by Christmas we would have an additional 80,000 deaths and end up topping 200,000 and the virus does not care about Christmas and will continue to do what it will do until there is an effective treatment or vaccine.
I am hopeful that this case increase has been a good warning shot about how we practice our lives in these times. I am hoping that the rapid case intensification was mostly due to sloppiness caused by cabin fever and change in seasons and that we can learn from it and come up with some thoughtful adjustments that preserve the vulnerable and still allow us us to go about our lives and participate in modified commerce. |
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HungerBuster Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 371
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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The stats this week are particularly promising:
1. As the number of tests in the State of Texas has drastically increased over the past two weeks (up almost 2000% since June 15), the percentage of those new tests resulting with confirmed infection has drastically DECREASED at almost similarly large rates and levels (down almost 1400%).
2. As the number of confirmed cases increased in the State of Texas, over that same two week period the mortality rate from those confirmed cases remained steady (you have better than a 99.5% chance of surviving infection). Important note of fact: even those mortality numbers are drawn solely from the answer to the question: "did they have Covid 19?", and not from the question "what was the cause of death?"
3. More people are wearing masks now than ever before...meaning most people are actually aware of where they are going, what they are touching, and who they are around. This is never a bad thing...social responsibility is a positive, particularly when wearing a mask is actually a positive sign that you give a hoot about your neighbor to begin with.
All stats from the CDC and the TDSHS websites. Don't take my word for it. Go and look for yourself.
I want to reiterate that I am all for being responsible and playing nice in the sandbox. If nothing else, it is something that brings us together in a back-handed way...kind of like going to Confession just because you're afraid that if you don't you've practically signed your ticket to Hell-- isn't the actual reason to go, but hey, you're at least better for it. Everyone should absolutely, positively do everything they can to put their neighbor at as much ease as possible and hopefully protect each other in the process. But we cannot and should not (EVER) state "facts" as conclusions when the conclusions are born out as simple theory by the facts.
Lastly, and most important of all, any death that can be prevented is unacceptable. We all owe each other that level of respect. And we should applaud the steadfast efforts of government, private industry and armchair quarterbacks to cure, limit and help protect against the spread of the virus.
And with that, I'm out on this topic even if I have to eat my own foot to keep my mouth shut. _________________ Fish ON! |
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Rxfire Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 16 Apr 2016 Posts: 622 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't your Number 1 posted above the same as the "Positivity Rate"?
That would be the number of Positive cases, divided by the number of tests.
To add confusion, the statisticians do a 7-day rolling average of the Positivity Rate (I think because the tests today may show up Positive in several days to a week away in the future).
Anyway, the data posted by John Hopkins University show the Positivity rate INCREASING in Texas:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/texas
Move the mouse over the bar graph to see the pop up Positivity Rate, Number of Tests, and number of New Cases. |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Another 205 infections for a total of 2120! This has to slow down or stop, somehow! Stay covered and distant if you can. |
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