Corpusfishing.com

mechdave · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:32 pm Post subject:

Well said!
_________________
Live like you're dying

Bloodhound · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject:

awesum · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:29 am Post subject:

Oil Field Trash II · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560

total control of the fishery has been NOAA's plan all along.

now it's the endangered red snapper that needs swift justice from the federal government. please ignore the fact that it was the federal government responsible for killing millions of fish when they forced oil companies to remove inactive platforms in the gulf.

does anyone think that these $$$holios like Roy crabtree will sit back and say "good deal, we're done now that we have control over red snapper">

they're already effing up the rec season on amberjack (oh yeah! another commercially harvested species!) and there are proposals to go to vermillion snapper next. Anything that is commercially harvested will be protected for commercial interests.

what happens when they're done with that? has the federal government ever stopped regulating the poo poo out of anything? After they get control of state waters to "manage red snapper, do you think they'll look at the other species in the gulf? trout, reds, flounder, sheepshead, sharks....

pretty soon if this keeps up and people don't fight for state's rights, you will only be able to catch hardheads at the dock with your kids.

Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:24 am Post subject:

Tips for a public meeting:

Sign up to address the panel (see footnote *)
Have your remarks (succinct as possible) ready ahead of time
Stay on the topic at hand - NO TANGENTS OF YOUR PARTICULAR AXE TO GRIND
Do not try and engage an argument - they are there to record your opinion
Keep the comments from the 'Peanut Gallery' to a minimum
Adhere to any time limit - (see Tip #2)
Be Firm but be Respectful

I seriously would like to see an overflow crowd in the NRC Building on Monday. THE red snapper has been a problem child in terms of management forever, but this latest idea is not even half-baked. It's just a rotten deal for Texas.

* Edited footnote. Even if you are repeating something already said, sign up and address the panel. If 100 people are at a public hearing, and 3 make a comment, even if all 100 are against a proposal, what gets recorded and passed along is "3 people in opposition". Please address the panel.
CS

Oil Field Trash II · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560

when I spoke at the trout hearings a few years ago, there were maybe 4 or 5 people who spoke. There were several guides, a cca member, some old guy that thought he killed the last buffalo, and me. a bluff rat who couldn't get my head around the proposed removal of the two day possession limit.

I honestly think I made an impact arguing that the two day possession shouldn't be eliminated back then. My argument was that it came down to wear I slept at night that would determine whether I could keep 10 fish on two consecutive days of fishing. I sleep at the cabin in the landcut or on PINS, I can't keep 5+5 fish. I sleep at home in the bluff or houston, I keep 5+5 fish. sometimes these people need an average person's opinion to get a grip on reality. I hope folks show up.

CS is absolutely right. if all you have to say is "I disagree with the NOAA, or the poo poo feds taking control of Texas' waters", it's a documented response they have to consider.

as far as the fishing on weekends only? horrible idea. going offshore is tied to weather windows, not a calendar. This is the same poo poo thinking that NOAA has, not getting the situation of weather conditions in the western gulf of mexico.

I was able to do this yesterday, on a Wednesday, with a couple buddies and a customer. last minute deal, slight weather window and we took advantage of the resource we have available.

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:41 am Post subject:

Move along, nothing to see here. Oil Field Trash II had a decent day on the water, nothing exciting to report.

Oil Field Trash II · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560

ROFL.

That's pretty much how they're trying to portray THE red snapperz

Tyler · Site Admin Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12865

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

TroutSlayer · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 432

NOAA is really feeling the pressure on this issue and is ready to deal. Unfortunately I do not trust TPWD to do our negotiations. Like with limits reductions only a certain few have their ear and they tend to go with what that crowd wants. Watch once again and see where the average Joe ends up. I think it is a disaster to give the Feds any rights over State waters but I am afraid TPWD will give that up in return for something that pleases the weekend fisherman. I don't have a thing against weekend guys and my day job too often relegates me to that status but TPWD is supposed to represent all fisherman and not any one particular group. Once those rights are gone you can kiss them goodbye.

My vote right now is to keep the pressure on until we get them to implement reasonable angler quota for their waters. Any trade does nothing to change the underlying problem which is the stranglehold the Commercial interest have on the resource. Let them stew in the sheetstorm they find themselves in until they fix what is wrong with their regs and leave Texas waters alone.
_________________
Wish I Were in Baffin

mechdave · Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:16 am Post subject:

Agreed!
_________________
Live like you're dying

Towboat Trash · Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:59 am Post subject:

Central Scrutinizer · Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:12 am Post subject:

I wouldn't call a 1% difference a majority, although I suppose technically it is. It's a 51-49% Split. The rec side is in no way TINY.

And I know there is lots of perceived animosity at the way the commercial guys operate, but they have way stricter regulations on them, have the most extreme reporting requirements, and have to account for every fish.

While it's true they have a smaller minimum size, think about it from the larger perspective. Less release mortality = less pressure on the stock. I can't count the number of times I have been on a party boat and watched the steady stream of throwbacks litter the surface for hundreds of yards. Which is worse, the commercial guy hitting his quota with only a slight bit of release mortality (1 or 2 throwbacks for every 10 fish kept) or the rec side of hitting the quota with a huge amount of release mortality (30 - 40 throwbacks for every 10 fish kept)?

And those are realistic numbers, mind you.