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mesquitecountry · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:23 pm Post subject: Smack Fishing

Hi all,

I've never tried fishing for smacks (never fished Jetty's either), and was wanting to try it this weekend, since they appear to be coming in. Does anyone have any pointers? Any help is greatly appreciated!

I've heard hard fast reeling on large silver spoons, 3/4-1oz works well. I have a couple of medium heavy fast action rods I plan to use. Wasnt going to buy a surf rod just yet.

I'm without a boat for another week or so, so looking at alternative fishing options. Was also planning to hit the surf this weekend, if the waves stay 2 or so. Swell info has them 2-3 right now.

Prof. Salt · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:35 pm Post subject:

Go to a local Wal Mart and buy a few Tsunami Slim Wave spoons. Remove the splits and treble, and replace with stronger split and hook, then add six inches of 44lb wire with a #8 SPRO swivel. When you find the fish on the surface busting up a school of bait, cast it into the mayhemand reel it as fast as you can.

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:57 pm Post subject:

They are suckers for smaller "Gotcha" lures too, and the darn things can almost, quite literally, cast a county mile! Same advice on the retrieve speed, but with this lure, try to make it dart around and see what happens.... Cool

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mesquitecountry · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject:

Prof. Salt · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:08 pm Post subject:

Six inches of leader lets it fit in my tackle box in the kayak. I rarely get bit off, unless a king nails the spoon.

TheDude · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:51 pm Post subject:

I've also have great luck with catching them using live shrimp under a popping cork with a Fluorocarbon leader. Sometimes they are finicky and don't like seeing the wire. The key to landing them with this setup is having a circle hook. Also make sure that you are applying pressure away from the direction they are headed in order to keep the leader away from their teeth. Landing them is also a little tricky because you have to make sure they don't bite the leader while lifting them onto the rocks. Good Luck
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crhfish · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:35 pm Post subject:

I use a bubble float about the size of an egg, one of those you can add a little water to to give it weight. Below that I put a larger swivel with the float above it so the float is free but stopped by the swivel. Below the swivel I put about 2 ft of 40b floro , slip on a three inch section of McDonalds drinking straw, then tye off a treble hook. The straw is the lure and the treble keeps it on, its cheap and on certain days this setup is deadly. Cast as far as you can and reel it back with the bubble float dancing across the top of the water, fast.

If you fly fish the straw setup can be used to do that also.

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:22 pm Post subject:

I have caught more than a few kings and other toothy critters with zero wire, only a 20-40 lb fluoro leader and a circle hook. Yes, I've lost a couple, but most make it into the boat! The reason ( wheeeew.... ) is that circle hooks grab in the corner of the mouth, with the line outside the teeth. Yes, the line gets a few nicks being pulled out of the gullet until the hook sets, but, you will get more bites than with wire.

I'd rather up my bite rate and lose 10% - 20% than get fewer bites, and STILL lose at least that many. JMO.

My biggest Bluefish was caught the same way: at least a 6 pounder, 7" live mullet, 40 lb fluoro leader, no wire, Mustad Perfect Circle, size 3/0.....
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grasscutter · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:20 pm Post subject:

[quote="crhfish"]I use a bubble float about the size of an egg, one of those you can add a little water to to give it weight. Below that I put a larger swivel with the float above it so the float is free but stopped by the swivel. Below the swivel I put about 2 ft of 40b floro , slip on a three inch section of McDonalds drinking straw, then tye off a treble hook. The straw is the lure and the treble keeps it on, its cheap and on certain days this setup is deadly. Cast as far as you can and reel it back with the bubble float dancing across the top of the water, fast.

If you fly fish the straw setup can be used to do that also.[/quote

That's a pretty cool technique. Have you tried this on other species and had success with it?

crhfish · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:25 pm Post subject:

I have only used on Spanish. When I was younger this was a popular technique in the Destin Navarre area. Allot of the pier rats there were to poor to buy spoons. It has the shape of a gotcha but no weight so you need the bubble float. With some water in the float you can cast it a long ways.

mesquitecountry · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:39 am Post subject:

Thanks all!

hardheadted · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject:

[quote="grasscutter"]

FB PHIL · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 455

I used that straw rig on BHP with good luck, but we always used the striped Whattaburger straws. Silver Mannolures are hard to beat for all kinds of fish off the pier, even whiting or sandies.

Lost Cajun · Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:33 pm Post subject:

Almost any kind of silver spoon and wire leader. On the jettys use some strong tackle. Some of those guys can spool a trout rod.

I used to avoid them until I made cerviche once. That is some of my favorite summertime eating right there.

RiPPin LiPS · Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:05 pm Post subject:

GET EM !!!
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