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fishinglady
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not so worried about the regular posters to corpusfishing doing in the swans. BUT this site gets a lot of browsers, and we do live in a place where Yeti coolers [worth much less] are regularly stolen from the back of pickup trucks and people's cars and trucks are broken into while they are out on the water fishing.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fishinglady wrote:
I'm not so worried about the regular posters to corpusfishing doing in the swans. BUT this site gets a lot of browsers, and we do live in a place where Yeti coolers [worth much less] are regularly stolen from the back of pickup trucks and people's cars and trucks are broken into while they are out on the water fishing.


I'm still not sure why you care what happens to them. If you want to see a black swan, call around. They have them at zoos, parks, etc. It's not like the last three black swans on the planet flew in from Australia to seek refuge in the mystic Mother Lagoon. They are exotics. They are not protected by any laws. There is no season or bag limit. What are you feelings on duck hunting?

And to the lurkers, be sure to use non-toxic shot if you decide to have a go Smile #2 steel should do the job.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

topdog15 wrote:
fishinglady wrote:
I'm not so worried about the regular posters to corpusfishing doing in the swans. BUT this site gets a lot of browsers, and we do live in a place where Yeti coolers [worth much less] are regularly stolen from the back of pickup trucks and people's cars and trucks are broken into while they are out on the water fishing.


I'm still not sure why you care what happens to them. If you want to see a black swan, call around. They have them at zoos, parks, etc. It's not like the last three black swans on the planet flew in from Australia to seek refuge in the mystic Mother Lagoon. They are exotics. They are not protected by any laws. There is no season or bag limit. What are you feelings on duck hunting?

And to the lurkers, be sure to use non-toxic shot if you decide to have a go Smile #2 steel should do the job.


I think it's just the fact that they are a rare sight for those of us who rarely get to see such a sight in the wild much less our own backyard, Kinda like me liking the cottontails and rats that come out of the brush to eat the carrots and corn that I throw out to them. Or maybe it's like hearing Loons and Sandhill Cranes on the KRS while we are fishing. I don't want anyone killing the Sawns, if they do I don't want to see it nor do I want a Black Swan sandwich after the fact. Man is my grammer off today I must be over excited about the 5 days off starting Wednesday. Going to slay some fish this weekend and some pumpkin pie. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Want to see more? Come up to Austin, homeowners here buy them and release them on the lake all the time. Until a bass boat runs them over of course. They rarely last the summer. The white swans seem to have a higher survival rate. Better visibility I suppose.

They are loose livestock, as said already, escaped from someone's pond.

Do you get all Wild Kingdom inside when you see a loose goat by the roadside?


BTW: Don't bother shooting them, they taste like muck and have very little usable meat.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johninaustin wrote:
BTW: Don't bother shooting them, they taste like muck and have very little usable meat.


Well now, that's disappointing. Suppose I will need that HEB turkey after-all.

But my only question is, "How do you know what muck tastes like"? Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this sighting coud have serious implications per Wikipedia

What we call here a Black Swan (and capitalize it) is an event with the following three attributes.

First, it is an outlier, as it lies outside the realm of regular expectations, because nothing in the past can convincingly point to its possibility. Second, it carries an extreme 'impact'. Third, in spite of its outlier status, human nature makes us concoct explanations for its occurrence after the fact, making it explainable and predictable.

I stop and summarize the triplet: rarity, extreme 'impact', and retrospective (though not prospective) predictability. A small number of Black Swans explains almost everything in our world, from the success of ideas and religions, to the dynamics of historical events, to elements of our own personal lives.

The black swan theory or theory of black swan events is a metaphor that describes an event that comes as a surprise, has a major effect, and is often inappropriately rationalized after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.

The disproportionate role of high-profile, hard-to-predict, and rare events that are beyond the realm of normal expectations in history, science, finance, and technology.
The non-computability of the probability of the consequential rare events using scientific methods (owing to the very nature of small probabilities).
The psychological biases that make people individually and collectively blind to uncertainty and unaware of the massive role of the rare event in historical affairs.
Unlike the earlier philosophical "black swan problem", the "black swan theory" refers only to unexpected events of large magnitude and consequence and their dominant role in history. Such events, considered extreme outliers, collectively play vastly larger roles than regular occurrences.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man anyone just reading this post would think the fishing is slow... 😳
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm told that they taste just like Bald Eagle. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cricket wrote:
I'm told that they taste just like Bald Eagle. Smile


See I heard it was more like whooping crane....
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roy you should run for a political office because over half of us read that and didn't get it. Very Happy A perfect example of a good politician. I would vote for you. We will have to discuss that over some fried fish and libations sometime .
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romann wrote:
Well, this sighting coud have serious implications per Wikipedia

What we call here a Black Swan (and capitalize it) is an event with the following three attributes.

First, it is an outlier, as it lies outside the realm of regular expectations, because nothing in the past can convincingly point to its possibility. Second, it carries an extreme 'impact'. Third, in spite of its outlier status, human nature makes us concoct explanations for its occurrence after the fact, making it explainable and predictable.

I stop and summarize the triplet: rarity, extreme 'impact', and retrospective (though not prospective) predictability. A small number of Black Swans explains almost everything in our world, from the success of ideas and religions, to the dynamics of historical events, to elements of our own personal lives.

The black swan theory or theory of black swan events is a metaphor that describes an event that comes as a surprise, has a major effect, and is often inappropriately rationalized after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.

The disproportionate role of high-profile, hard-to-predict, and rare events that are beyond the realm of normal expectations in history, science, finance, and technology.
The non-computability of the probability of the consequential rare events using scientific methods (owing to the very nature of small probabilities).
The psychological biases that make people individually and collectively blind to uncertainty and unaware of the massive role of the rare event in historical affairs.
Unlike the earlier philosophical "black swan problem", the "black swan theory" refers only to unexpected events of large magnitude and consequence and their dominant role in history. Such events, considered extreme outliers, collectively play vastly larger roles than regular occurrences.


.....you lost me lol
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironmanstan wrote:
topdog15 wrote:
fishinglady wrote:
I'm not so worried about the regular posters to corpusfishing doing in the swans. BUT this site gets a lot of browsers, and we do live in a place where Yeti coolers [worth much less] are regularly stolen from the back of pickup trucks and people's cars and trucks are broken into while they are out on the water fishing.


I'm still not sure why you care what happens to them. If you want to see a black swan, call around. They have them at zoos, parks, etc. It's not like the last three black swans on the planet flew in from Australia to seek refuge in the mystic Mother Lagoon. They are exotics. They are not protected by any laws. There is no season or bag limit. What are you feelings on duck hunting?

And to the lurkers, be sure to use non-toxic shot if you decide to have a go Smile #2 steel should do the job.


I think it's just the fact that they are a rare sight for those of us who rarely get to see such a sight in the wild much less our own backyard, Kinda like me liking cottontail and rats that come out of the brush to eat the carrots and corn that I throw out to them. Or maybe it's like hearing Loons and Sandhill Cranes. I don't want anyone killing the Sawns, if they do I don't want to see it nor do I want a Black Swan sandwich after the fact. Man is my grammer off today.... Very Happy


Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................I love me some Sandhill Crane. Hunt em as much as I can every year!!! Great on the grill -medium rare. RIBEYE OF THE SKY!!!!!!!!! DELISH!!!!!!! Wink Wink Wink Wink

You done went and made me hungry!!!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta admit. Those dumb-supple bum swans definitely picked the wrong place to to squat. Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure I can solve the mystery. They more than likely came from my parents pond here in the Bluff. They bought a breeding pair several years ago that had offspring a few times since. Each year a few go on hiatus for a couple weeks and then return to the pond. You can see (2) of the birds in question in the background of this I took a few months back.
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