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justletmein
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| obsessed wrote: | i don't mind helping people even if it means blowing a trip out, but honestly, you have to ask yourself, if you bought that $50k boat, plus a floater or house out there, then why not pay the extra $140/year to get SeaTow for EXTRA insurance?
you don't even have to be on your on boat if something happens, as long as you are a memeber, you are covered....
call me crazy, but if i can afford the expensive toys, i want to make sure they are covered just in case something happens, SeaTow is cheap compared to other services. |
x2 Marcus that's the smart move for sure.
My boat insurance has towing coverage so I'd get reimbursed for an out-of-pocket tow expense so I don't subscribe to the service.
As for helping out, just like helping people out on PINS I don't mind at all helping out in the boat, hell I'm not gonna catch any fish anyway so towing someone in will provide more action. 
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obsessed
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| justletmein wrote: | | obsessed wrote: | i don't mind helping people even if it means blowing a trip out, but honestly, you have to ask yourself, if you bought that $50k boat, plus a floater or house out there, then why not pay the extra $140/year to get SeaTow for EXTRA insurance?
you don't even have to be on your on boat if something happens, as long as you are a memeber, you are covered....
call me crazy, but if i can afford the expensive toys, i want to make sure they are covered just in case something happens, SeaTow is cheap compared to other services. |
x2 Marcus that's the smart move for sure.
My boat insurance has towing coverage so I'd get reimbursed for an out-of-pocket tow expense so I don't subscribe to the service.
As for helping out, just like helping people out on PINS I don't mind at all helping out in the boat, hell I'm not gonna catch any fish anyway so towing someone in will provide more action. |
LOL....
as for the out of pocket, thing is, you have to pay that first, then get reimbursed from the insurance, which could take a while....the way i understand it, with SeaTow as long as you have paid your yearly fee and are a memeber, there is no out of pocket, if i'm wrong though, please let me know...
disclaimer: i don't have SeaTow, i don't own my own boat yet, but have been researching for the day (hopefully by next spring) i finally get my sled...a few friends i know do have SeaTow and are very happy with the service.
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jc
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:28 am Post subject: Re: TROUBLE ON THE WATER |
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| Granite Guy wrote: | | UNLIKE J,C, KADMAN AND OTHERS UNDERSTANDS MY POINT, I PULLED 4 GUYS BACK WITH A YOUNG BOY ON BOARD LAST SPRING IN HARD RAIN AND LIGHTNING AROUND FROM THE YELLOW CABINS TO MARKER 37. THEY TOLD ME A DOZEN BOATS HAD PASSED THEM BY. I WAS HAPPY TO HELP OUT THESE GUYS, AND YES I TOOK THERE $ 40.00 BUCKS AND A BIG HAND SHAKE. PULLED TWO OTHER GUYS IN AS WELL DURING THE SUMMER, SHORTER DISTANCE NO MONEY WAS OFFERED, NO PROBLEM, GLAD TO HELP ANOTHER FISHERMAN IN DISTESS. IF TYLER WOULD COME UP WITH A CORPUSFISHING.COM MEMEBER STICKER I WOULD DISPALY ON BOAT AND CABIN TO LET OTHER MEMBERS KNOW THEY COULD COUNT ON HIS READERS/MEMBERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. JUST A THOUGHT, STILL WORKING ON FIRST CUP OF COFFEE. |
I understood your point perfectly, and I have helped many in the sand on the island and paid for it with a broken frame on my truck... luckily it was an easy $200 weld and back to normal with lesson learned. If I find you frame deep in the sand I will gladly loan you my shovel and even help dig, especially if you are older than me or in poor health. But I am not prepared to standby 24/7 to man the batcave awaiting the distress calls... there are people that do that for a living. If I had a boat and traveled any distance from the boat ramp I would call them if I was in a jamb and there were no other boats close by that offered help... |
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obsessed
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: Re: TROUBLE ON THE WATER |
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| jc wrote: | | Granite Guy wrote: | | UNLIKE J,C, KADMAN AND OTHERS UNDERSTANDS MY POINT, I PULLED 4 GUYS BACK WITH A YOUNG BOY ON BOARD LAST SPRING IN HARD RAIN AND LIGHTNING AROUND FROM THE YELLOW CABINS TO MARKER 37. THEY TOLD ME A DOZEN BOATS HAD PASSED THEM BY. I WAS HAPPY TO HELP OUT THESE GUYS, AND YES I TOOK THERE $ 40.00 BUCKS AND A BIG HAND SHAKE. PULLED TWO OTHER GUYS IN AS WELL DURING THE SUMMER, SHORTER DISTANCE NO MONEY WAS OFFERED, NO PROBLEM, GLAD TO HELP ANOTHER FISHERMAN IN DISTESS. IF TYLER WOULD COME UP WITH A CORPUSFISHING.COM MEMEBER STICKER I WOULD DISPALY ON BOAT AND CABIN TO LET OTHER MEMBERS KNOW THEY COULD COUNT ON HIS READERS/MEMBERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. JUST A THOUGHT, STILL WORKING ON FIRST CUP OF COFFEE. |
I understood your point perfectly, and I have helped many in the sand on the island and paid for it with a broken frame on my truck... luckily it was an easy $200 weld and back to normal with lesson learned. If I find you frame deep in the sand I will gladly loan you my shovel and even help dig, especially if you are older than me or in poor health. But I am not prepared to standby 24/7 to man the batcave awaiting the distress calls... there are people that do that for a living. If I had a boat and traveled any distance from the boat ramp I would call them if I was in a jamb and there were no other boats close by that offered help... |
exactly....what most don't realize especially on the sand is if someone stops to help yank you out, there have been quite a few that have lost transmissions, broken frame or other stuff happen to their vehicle as well...
you just never know, but like i said before, i will stop and help as much as i can...
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justletmein
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| obsessed wrote: | | justletmein wrote: | | obsessed wrote: | i don't mind helping people even if it means blowing a trip out, but honestly, you have to ask yourself, if you bought that $50k boat, plus a floater or house out there, then why not pay the extra $140/year to get SeaTow for EXTRA insurance?
you don't even have to be on your on boat if something happens, as long as you are a memeber, you are covered....
call me crazy, but if i can afford the expensive toys, i want to make sure they are covered just in case something happens, SeaTow is cheap compared to other services. |
x2 Marcus that's the smart move for sure.
My boat insurance has towing coverage so I'd get reimbursed for an out-of-pocket tow expense so I don't subscribe to the service.
As for helping out, just like helping people out on PINS I don't mind at all helping out in the boat, hell I'm not gonna catch any fish anyway so towing someone in will provide more action. |
LOL....
as for the out of pocket, thing is, you have to pay that first, then get reimbursed from the insurance, which could take a while....the way i understand it, with SeaTow as long as you have paid your yearly fee and are a memeber, there is no out of pocket, if i'm wrong though, please let me know...
disclaimer: i don't have SeaTow, i don't own my own boat yet, but have been researching for the day (hopefully by next spring) i finally get my sled...a few friends i know do have SeaTow and are very happy with the service. |
Don't buy in the spring vato, winter time is the time to buy and spring is the time to sell. Once the boat shows start rolling around the prices go up. I've had a few people I sent over to the same dealer to buy my same boat that I bought in December last year and their prices both came in $5k over what I paid for the same rig from the same dealer.
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good to know, JJ...if and that's a big IF, i buy, it's more than likely going to be used.... 
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good to know, JJ...if and that's a big IF, i buy, it's more than likely going to be used....
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Central Scrutinizer
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:39 am Post subject: Re: TROUBLE ON THE WATER |
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| Granite Guy wrote: | | ... IM RUNNING KINDA A NEW RIG, SO I HAVE NOT JOINED THESE ON THE WATER PIRATES. |
New rig or not, it can always boil down to some of the most simple things. Ever spun a prop? Cheap fix, if you have a spare on board, ... but an expensive tow if you happen to be offshore and you ain't going anywhere without a prop.
Like others have pointed out, in the long run, these PIRATES are very cheap insurance and have to be thought of in that fashion. |
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Uncle D
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First off, they are not PIRATES. They offer a service. It's up to the individual to decide to buy tow insurance or not.
Second, I have been on both ends of problems on the water. Personally I feel if you stop to help, then help. Do whatever it takes within reason.  |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Uncle D - My apologies if you took offense to me using the terminology of the OP. I know that they are not pirates, and they provide a very valuable service (like you point out).
I was just taking the opportunity to point out that a few $ prop key can be all that is between a good day on the water and a very expensive tow in if you are stuck. New-ish rig or not. |
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Uncle D
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:33 am Post subject: |
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No offence at all Luke. Not really directed at you or anyone even though it was used in the beginning of this thread.
You are more than correct. anything can happen on the water, no matter how prepared you are.
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Johninaustin
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| extreme fisher wrote: | | Johninaustin wrote: | That said, I'll check on you and leave if all you are safe, I'm not going to blow a fishing trip because you failed at properly maintaining your equipment.  Call Seatow. |
Johninaustin, if you ever break down, be sure to mention to whomever stops to help you that you are a member of corpusfishing.com and you go by Johninaustin so we can continue fishing after making sure everyone is safe, and you then you can call seatow if you have phone service or a VHF radio on the boat. To all others I(and I am sure a lot of others here on this website) will be more than happy to help you out. Just because you do your yearly maintenance does not mean that you will not break down. See the comment from "Kadman"
I am guessing most people on this website would be more than willing to lend a helping hand or a tow back to civilization if requested, I know that I would help and not ask for anything in return. |
Two engines, two radios, an EPIRB, spare pump, liife raft, routinely buddy boat AND have tow insurance. I don't need you and I'm not in the rescue business when i'm not on the clock.
I spend 40 hours a week in a boat. Usually dealing with idiots that spent more on beer than on safety equipment. I'll make sure you are safe. Anything past that is up to you. I'll be damned if I tow you 20 miles. The USCG does not do it,, neither will I. Same goes for people stuck on PINS. I'll give you a ride if you are going my way, but as already pointed out, there are folks that run tow services for a living, and you won't die sitting in a lawn chair waiting for them.
Bottom line for me, if it's a rescue, go all out. if it's a friend, go all out. If it's an idiot floating in a sound boat, I'll lend him the radio and tell him to have a nice day.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: Re: TROUBLE ON THE WATER |
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| obsessed wrote: |
exactly....what most don't realize especially on the sand is if someone stops to help yank you out, there have been quite a few that have lost transmissions, broken frame or other stuff happen to their vehicle as well...
you just never know, but like i said before, i will stop and help as much as i can... |
Last year I came across a brand new F350 4X4 buried to the frame near the high tide mark. I stopped to check it out, but the owner had gone to get help.
On the way back on Saturday, they had dug it out and were trying to pull it out.
From my vantage point, I could see that the front of the frame was still buried, yet they were trying to pull it from the front brush guard. Any fool could see that the rear end was clear.
I stopped and said, "Umm, just an idea, but you should probably pull it out from the rear".
Popped right out the first try. But, the guy helping them had burned his transmission and brakes pretty badly in the effort.
I will always stop and try to help, within my ability. It may come back to you if you ever get in a jam down that lonesome stretch of beach some day.
\Jeez, took me a year to post?
Frikkin' n00b.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:47 am Post subject: Re: TROUBLE ON THE WATER |
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| Fishin' Musician wrote: | | obsessed wrote: |
exactly....what most don't realize especially on the sand is if someone stops to help yank you out, there have been quite a few that have lost transmissions, broken frame or other stuff happen to their vehicle as well...
you just never know, but like i said before, i will stop and help as much as i can... |
Last year I came across a brand new F350 4X4 buried to the frame near the high tide mark. I stopped to check it out, but the owner had gone to get help.
On the way back on Saturday, they had dug it out and were trying to pull it out.
From my vantage point, I could see that the front of the frame was still buried, yet they were trying to pull it from the front brush guard. Any fool could see that the rear end was clear.
I stopped and said, "Umm, just an idea, but you should probably pull it out from the rear".
Popped right out the first try. But, the guy helping them had burned his transmission and brakes pretty badly in the effort.
I will always stop and try to help, within my ability. It may come back to you if you ever get in a jam down that lonesome stretch of beach some day.
\Jeez, took me a year to post?
Frikkin' n00b. |
LOL....
i would have done the same, within my limits of course....i actually helped a guy out at sharkathon a couple years back, pulled his dually from the surf, once i got him clear, noticed his father was stuck trying to get him out, pulled him out as well....lucky for me, i didn't tear anything up, but it was a chore.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Last year, we rescued a boatload of duck hunters who were wading and or hanging onto their boat gunnels while trying to get back to Marker 37.
They had limited out on ducks. Lots of ducks. I said that I never had tasted the kind of duck they had. No response from them.
While we did not expect anything in return for our 45 minute tow trip, it would have been nice of them to offer.
Plus, it's not smart on our part to attempt to make a point with a boatload of drenched guys, all of whom have guns. |
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