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My not usual BACKYARD report...IMS
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ironmanstan
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:23 pm    Post subject: My not usual BACKYARD report...IMS Reply with quote

We hit the flats at about 7am this morning and headed to my honey hole. We (me and bamared54) set up up a drift and started throwing topwaters on the light ripples that the breeze was making and started getting a few pops, not blowups. From there it just went down hill. The water was stained with depth visability about 6 to 10 inches. So we moved here and there and further south. One of the places we stopped was near the ICW close to the Pita channel and saw that there was an abundance of nice redfish, we couldn't get them to hit anything. Out of frustration I moved further south to Pureoil and back into Nighthawk thinking it might be clearer back there.....wrong. It was browner back there infact I did not see the bottom until I realized that i was running in 3-4 inches of water at which time I did the IMS 180 by that time i could just about count the shells on the bottom and the visability was still bad. I now know just how shallow the FLAT BOTTOM GIRL will run, and thats way too shallow for me and it's bad for my eyes, I haven't opened them that wide since the first time I saw my wife to be. So anyway we caught 2 trout 1 red and 1 segull the red was to small so it was sent back and we debated on the seagull, but we let it go to figuring to much work plucking it. Came back to the home 40 thawed out some past "not realeased" and fried it up. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. Cheers...IMS
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think we got a brown tide bloom going on IMS?? It was really nasty brown when I fished earlier this week, but I thought it was just high winds, but maybe not if it is still brown.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not know forsure but it sure looks like an algae bloom to me. I will have to wait for the experts like topdog or Capt. Mike for their guess to what it is. I would have thought with the light winds it would ahve been crystal clear today. Not the case. Question Question
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

visibility was poor in Night Hawk yesterday as well. we did find the fish with a popping cork along with a nice 25" plus trout. all released.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironmanstan wrote:
I do not know forsure but it sure looks like an algae bloom to me. I will have to wait for the experts like topdog or Capt. Mike for their guess to what it is. I would have thought with the light winds it would ahve been crystal clear today. Not the case. Question Question


Yes, from what I can tell it is a BT bloom. I've had to run as far as the Kenedy shoreline to get away from it. From what I have seen the bloom extends from as far south as the GW cabin on the spoils at Yarbrough to the Kennedy Bridge. The worst area seem to be from the mouth of Baffin
to Pure Oil.
Alot of difference between BT and just nasty water, our bloom has been working its way north since about 10 days ago. The last rain we had really gave the crap a chance to get kicked off.

Mike
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Mike Singleterry wrote:
ironmanstan wrote:
I do not know forsure but it sure looks like an algae bloom to me. I will have to wait for the experts like topdog or Capt. Mike for their guess to what it is. I would have thought with the light winds it would ahve been crystal clear today. Not the case. Question Question


Yes, from what I can tell it is a BT bloom. I've had to run as far as the Kenedy shoreline to get away from it. From what I have seen the bloom extends from as far south as the GW cabin on the spoils at Yarbrough to the Kennedy Bridge. The worst area seem to be from the mouth of Baffin
to Pure Oil.
Alot of difference between BT and just nasty water, our bloom has been working its way north since about 10 days ago. The last rain we had really gave the crap a chance to get kicked off.

Mike

There's your answer. Capt Mike spoketh. I will now go back to licking the bowl as my wife is making a strawberry shortcake.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what it looked like to me. Water in my channel is nasty also. I don't know as of today, but yesterday, north of the causeway was clearer. Swung by your house just now on the way back from HEB but saw no activity so I didn't stop. Figured you were too tired or frustrated from lack of fish for guests. Looks like bait is going to be the method for a while. Am going to have to figure out how to use it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The backlakes of baffin are always so dirty i cant decide if its just the wind kicking or BT...but with the winds up the water looked more orange then the usual dirty...also fishing for most has been stupid tough...really really tough...for most Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the report Stan. We found reds in all those same areas yesterday - north nighthawk and near the icw/new humble area. More boats in nighthawk then normal, I guess it was because the water levels are way up and they get around easier. The clarity of the water was disgusting. If the reds weren't moving a little, you would have never seen them in the water with the stained murkiness and the fact that it was a little overcast yesterday morning. We had the same problem with them not biting. Put it two feet in front of them, they didn't flinch. Put it on their nose, they spook. Managed just one trout on a topwater. Seems like most people are grinding it out right now. Most normal estuaries - I say normal because ours is an oddball and most systems get much more fresh water than the laguna madre - but most of them have big annual springtime algal blooms, and eventually the greenish brown phytoplankton get grazed down by zooplankton or use up all the nutrients in the water and the blooms ends naturally. Lets hope the same thing happens here.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is some real good information about the BT. The '89 BT lasted it seemed forever. I guess you would of had to have been here.
enjoy.....

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/landwater/water/environconcerns/hab/brown_tide/

Mike
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Mike Singleterry wrote:
Here is some real good information about the BT. The '89 BT lasted it seemed forever. I guess you would of had to have been here.
enjoy.....

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/landwater/water/environconcerns/hab/brown_tide/

Mike


interesting reading. I was here and remeber how long it lasted. I also remember fishermen having alot of outboard problems during that time and linking it to brown tide messing up cooling systems.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: My not usual BACKYARD report...IMS Reply with quote

ironmanstan wrote:
Out of frustration I moved further south to Pureoil and back into Nighthawk thinking it might be clearer back there.....wrong.


I started south and moved north...as you may have already read, I didn't do much better. Confused Hope this water will CLEAR UP
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been out of the loop this past month or more, tried Nighthawk and it sure is stained. Barely could make out the difference from grass and sand!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Water Quality Reply with quote

The water is brown throughout the lagoon and Baffin. Very frustrating to a lure angler like myself. Not sure if it is brown tide or affects of the open bay disposal of dredge that took place in the past 6 weeks. I will say that they coincided with each other, but my records show that the brown stuff appears after rain runoff................ which we had considerable of in late winter and late spring. Nutrients and fertilizers running off of the big ranches has been my thought of the culprit for years. The dredge at the same time did not help. Most of the islands, east of ICW, have a new layer of black, silty mud up to your knees. TPWD wants to close areas due to prop scarring in the back yard, but does not work with Army corp to prevent killing thousands of acres of grass due to open bay disposal of drege.. Politics at its best. Why can they not work together on this? Big business (ICW/Barge) versus sports. I have had a gut full and cant help but laugh at watching the monkey screw the football when watching TPWD AND CORP "manage" the bay.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Mike Singleterry wrote:
Here is some real good information about the BT. The '89 BT lasted it seemed forever. I guess you would of had to have been here.
enjoy.....

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/landwater/water/environconcerns/hab/brown_tide/

Mike


good info and good post.
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