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Capt Mike Singleterry
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Thought some of you guys might be interested. Some good stuff but I needed to keep a Websters handy 
www.astonjournals.com/manuscripts/Vol2010/FAJ-2_Vol2010.pdf
Something to do until the wind lays down 
Ya might want to print it.....kinda long.
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Thanks for the heads up Capt. Mike.
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| Capt. Mike: Ignoring the basis of the article (DNA)... it seems that they have more data than TPWD so far as gill nets are concerned. It would be interesting to extrapolate the data and compare it to TPWD figures and see if the trends compare. Obviously the sampling methods are different so the numbers wouldn't mean much... but the trend itself would be telling. |
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Capt Mike Singleterry
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| jebsays wrote: | | Capt. Mike: Ignoring the basis of the article (DNA)... it seems that they have more data than TPWD so far as gill nets are concerned. It would be interesting to extrapolate the data and compare it to TPWD figures and see if the trends compare. Obviously the sampling methods are different so the numbers wouldn't mean much... but the trend itself would be telling. |
We need to get together and talk about it. I still have alot of questions
about the gathering of data and some of their conclusions. Talked a little about it with RPool this morning. We both had some of the same questions.
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm
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| jebsays wrote: | | Capt. Mike: Ignoring the basis of the article (DNA)... it seems that they have more data than TPWD so far as gill nets are concerned. It would be interesting to extrapolate the data and compare it to TPWD figures and see if the trends compare. Obviously the sampling methods are different so the numbers wouldn't mean much... but the trend itself would be telling. |
um, call me silly, but they used the TPWD's gill net data as part of the study.
interesting read although really heavy on the "science." blech. continues the notion that there are three sub-populations of trout on the TX coast.
regionalization?
PF
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jebsays
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| porkfetus wrote: | | jebsays wrote: | | Capt. Mike: Ignoring the basis of the article (DNA)... it seems that they have more data than TPWD so far as gill nets are concerned. It would be interesting to extrapolate the data and compare it to TPWD figures and see if the trends compare. Obviously the sampling methods are different so the numbers wouldn't mean much... but the trend itself would be telling. |
um, call me silly, but they used the TPWD's gill net data as part of the study.
interesting read although really heavy on the "science." blech. continues the notion that there are three sub-populations of trout on the TX coast.
regionalization?
PF |
You're right; line 1, thanks for bringing it to my attention. The 1975 data would be interesting. The data made publicly available by TPWD and used in their presentations started in 82, so basically right at the big fish kill. |
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ltorna1
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| Quote: | | interesting read although really heavy on the "science." blech. continues the notion that there are three sub-populations of trout on the TX coast. |
Hey now! Some of us actually LIKE that "blech" . Granted, its not as exciting as doing all the other stuff that apparently makes you a "real" fish biologist, like pulling a seine, taking surveys from fishermen, but heck somebody has to do it? Good read. Must admit, this is the LAST place I would expect to find a discussion on a paper about microsatellites and mtDNA. I'm always surprised, and usually in a good way.
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djohn71
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| porkfetus wrote: | | jebsays wrote: | | Capt. Mike: Ignoring the basis of the article (DNA)... it seems that they have more data than TPWD so far as gill nets are concerned. It would be interesting to extrapolate the data and compare it to TPWD figures and see if the trends compare. Obviously the sampling methods are different so the numbers wouldn't mean much... but the trend itself would be telling. |
um, call me silly, but they used the TPWD's gill net data as part of the study.
interesting read although really heavy on the "science." blech. continues the notion that there are three sub-populations of trout on the TX coast.
regionalization?
PF |
PF-Could it be the environmental changes in the 'natal estuaries' the females come from are forcing them to different areas, ths creating new 'natural barriers and the lower populations we are seeing in our bays to the north (yes and the fishing pressure and the other issues you have cited)
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