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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: BP burning turtles? Reply with quote

I seen this article on the Drudge Report. Can it be true?


Is BP burning sea turtles alive?
Updated: Tuesday, 22 Jun 2010, 4:39 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 22 Jun 2010, 4:39 PM EDT

MyFoxTampaBay.com staff report

VENICE, La. - A boat captain working to rescue sea turtles in the Gulf of Mexico says he has seen BP ships burning sea turtles and other wildlife alive.

Captain Mike Ellis said in an interview posted on You Tube that the boats are conducting controlled burns to get rid of the oil.

"They drag a boom between two shrimp boats and whatever gets caught between the two boats, they circle it up and catch it on fire. Once the turtles are in there, they can’t get out," Ellis said.

Ellis said he had to cut short his three-week trip rescuing the turtles because BP quit allowing him access to rescue turtles before the burns.

"They're pretty much keeping us from doing what we need to do out there," Ellis said.

Other reports corroborate Captain Ellis' claims. A report in the Los Angeles Times describes "burn fields" of 500 square miles in which 16 controlled burns will take place in one day.

"When the weather is calm and the sea is placid, ships trailing fireproof booms corral the black oil, the coated seaweed and whatever may be caught in it, and torch it into hundred-foot flames, sending plumes of smoke skyward in ebony mushrooms," the article says.

Ellis said most of the turtles he has seen are Kemps Ridley turtles, a critically endangered species. Harming or killing one would bring stiff civil and criminal penalties and fines of up to $50,000 against BP.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad indeed. But even saddeer, BP says - $50,000? What's that, a mosquito?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect Donna Shaver will be on this like flies on a summer BBQ.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: End Offshore Drilling Reply with quote

I think I'm gonna go puke! I guess were all responsible for this. I say NO more offshore oil drilling of any kind, try to fix what weve done and find another way to live. This polluting of the enviroment has to stop, and to think I used to consider myself a conservative. I'm willing to change, whatever it takes to put an end to this destruction. Hopefully if it's not already to late for the gulf.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to build/convert an electric car for short-haul use. It seems to be that converting to electric vehicle use for short trips seems to be an obvious low-hanging fruit.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonefishing wrote:
I'd like to build/convert an electric car for short-haul use. It seems to be that converting to electric vehicle use for short trips seems to be an obvious low-hanging fruit.

-Michael


so where do you think the plastic that makes that car comes from?

and also the roads you drive on?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea if this is true or not... just like everyone else on thsi board...

but am I the only one that finds it just a bit ironic that BP happens to be "killing" one of the rarest turtles in the world?

it just seems that statistically, they would be killing a more common turtle if this were true.... not one of the rarest...

Is there some reason that ridley's turtles would be more likely to be caught up than other turtles?

as far as the burning goes... I'm not sure what people expect. They do't want it on the beaches and the marshes, they don't want the use of dispersents on the oil, and they also can't burn it.

the oil is there. regardless of BP screwing up, the end result is the same right now. To me, this just seems like the typical environmentalist process...

don't let it go here, don't let it go there, don't let it go anywhere.... it's like a bad dr suess book. My thinking is that burning the oil is the lesser evil here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what is keeping the turtles from swimming under the booms and getting out? Are they dragging nets under the booms as well???

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the kemp ridleys were leaving Padre and Mustang Islands the researcher stated most were headed toward Louisiana, right to the center of this mess. Turtles don't know what this oil is. They're probably eating jellyfish covered in this stuff and getting sick. It's strange when anything is reported about this spill the oil guys say "How Ironic" to whatever it is. Even when there is a picture, they say it's slanted. I doubt we are seeing the worst of this, that which is happening beneath the surface. I'm afraid before this is over even the hardest core oil guys will see how massive the destruction is. Sad part, some will still say it's an acceptable risk.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gulftrout wrote:
When the kemp ridleys were leaving Padre and Mustang Islands the researcher stated most were headed toward Louisiana, right to the center of this mess. Turtles don't know what this oil is. They're probably eating jellyfish covered in this stuff and getting sick. It's strange when anything is reported about this spill the oil guys say "How Ironic" to whatever it is. Even when there is a picture, they say it's slanted. I doubt we are seeing the worst of this, that which is happening beneath the surface. I'm afraid before this is over even the hardest core oil guys will see how massive the destruction is. Sad part, some will still say it's an acceptable risk.


nobody here in these posts have said that it isn't tragic, but it is not the end of the world....again, look at Alaska, prime example...

unless you are ready to give up your TOTAL lifestyle, oil is here to stay, unless the US wants to be gouged more by more foregin dependancy worse than what we have it now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gulftrout wrote:
When the kemp ridleys were leaving Padre and Mustang Islands the researcher stated most were headed toward Louisiana, right to the center of this mess. Turtles don't know what this oil is. They're probably eating jellyfish covered in this stuff and getting sick. It's strange when anything is reported about this spill the oil guys say "How Ironic" to whatever it is. Even when there is a picture, they say it's slanted. I doubt we are seeing the worst of this, that which is happening beneath the surface. I'm afraid before this is over even the hardest core oil guys will see how massive the destruction is. Sad part, some will still say it's an acceptable risk.


nobody here in these posts have said that it isn't tragic, but it is not the end of the world....again, look at Alaska, prime example...

unless you are ready to give up your TOTAL lifestyle, oil is here to stay, unless the US wants to be gouged more by more foregin dependancy worse than what we have it now.
I already said I'm willing to change.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sitting in air conditioning, typing on a computer.... and you're ready to change?

hmm.... IRONIC.


I asked if there was a photo of the turtles being burned. Is that too illogical of a request from someone who was supposedly "right there" witnessing this entire event?

just once again for the record... the oil "industry" didn't spill oil... BP did.

hold BP accountable and make them pay for it, not the entire F'ing industry.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gulftrout wrote:
obsessed wrote:
gulftrout wrote:
When the kemp ridleys were leaving Padre and Mustang Islands the researcher stated most were headed toward Louisiana, right to the center of this mess. Turtles don't know what this oil is. They're probably eating jellyfish covered in this stuff and getting sick. It's strange when anything is reported about this spill the oil guys say "How Ironic" to whatever it is. Even when there is a picture, they say it's slanted. I doubt we are seeing the worst of this, that which is happening beneath the surface. I'm afraid before this is over even the hardest core oil guys will see how massive the destruction is. Sad part, some will still say it's an acceptable risk.


nobody here in these posts have said that it isn't tragic, but it is not the end of the world....again, look at Alaska, prime example...

unless you are ready to give up your TOTAL lifestyle, oil is here to stay, unless the US wants to be gouged more by more foregin dependancy worse than what we have it now.
I already said I'm willing to change.


and that's great that you are...but the rest of the world isn't....i'm not just talking about gas either...if you know anything about oil, it's byproduct is refined and used in EVERYTHING, all the way down to the plastic that holds your shampoo in...

here's a good read if you care to check it out, it offers just a bit of insight as to what and were oil or petro is:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_OIL_IN_EVERYTHING?SITE=COBOU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

and like Oil Field said, "Big Oil" nor the industry spilled oil, it was ALL on BP.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yall are all so freaking gullible..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried to stay out of this for a while, well at least as much as possible, but come on guys. No need to get on the guys case when he says hes willing to start reducing his personal dependency on oil. We all should. Obviously, oil is used for nearly everything. But what is wrong with using less? I admire it.


You going to criticize a guy and who rides a bike to avoid having to buy gas, because parts of his bike are plastic, and he rides it on a road made with petrolium products? Going to call him a hypocrite? Of course not, thats nonsense. You going criticize into a guy who wants to recycle all of his newspapers, even though he throws out a magazine and a paper napkin? Obviously not. Every little bit helps.

Its not a boycott on petrolium products, its just a shift in dependency, which requires a shift in thinking. Its going to have to happen sometime...

As far as the turtles and whatever else gets burned between the booms, its tragic, its disgusting, and nobody wants to see it. But I agree something has to be done with the oil, and burning it is one way to get rid of it. Not sure there is a happy ending to this one, it is just another sad sight in this horrible state of affairs.
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