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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:30 am    Post subject: Letter to Osama Reply with quote

Got this from another board....

A Friend sent this to me sounds like the truth has been spoken. Good Read
-Deepwater Drill Crews Are not the issue Mr.Obama
· Posted by Milton Estabrooks on May 31, 2010 at 11:21am in Louisiana Patriotic Resistance

I am dependent on Ultra-Deepwater Drilling for my income. The shutdown of Ultra-Deepwater Drilling is an unfair attack on the petroleum industry. British Petroleum Americas (B.P.) failure to perform their drilling operation in a safe manner is your issue. We as an industry are aware of the many B.P. failures on the Transocean Deepwater Horizon. The 11 Men that lost their lives are our brothers. Unsafe well practices by B.P. must be investigated. The root cause is a failure to resolve a poor primary cement job. B.P. had knowledge that the primary cement job had failed; their continued operation was unsafe. As the operator the men on the Deepwater Horizon trusted that B.P. would work safe. Federal government shares cause for allowing B.P. to continue to operate in the United States . B.P. has numerous safety failures and violation of Federal and industry standards.

As Ultra-Deepwater Drillers we demand safety at our work sites. Exploration Drilling is dangerous work. Each day we confront danger by using safe work practices. These work practices are a standard for our industry that we as workers demand. Government only steps in when they can make profit from our labor. Government safety standards require bribes by corporate raiders who also steal our labor.

When we die in helicopters there are no memorials. When we burn to death there is no green peace outrage. If we drown in frigid waters there is no Presidential visit with our families. When we lose a leg, arm, hand or foot government does not shut down for a single second. Media does not visit men that cannot stand straight because of failed backs from the heavy lifting required in our jobs. We shut down operations when someone is hurt. We perform safety stand downs to prove our work can continue forward safely. We pre task each operation to ensure safety. We observe each other as a natural part of our work to keep each other safe. Government does not keep me or my workmates safe we do it because we care about each other. We know what a wife goes through when a husband is lost. We have raised children of lost work mates. We are brothers. We are Teams of men that provide oil and gas to America .

Oil field workers hear the garbage of those who don’t have a clue what our families deal with each day. When we miss the first steps of our children do you care? When we leave women to take care of a household by their selves do you care? Our loved ones die and we are on a rig hundreds of miles away do you care? Hurricanes enter the gulf and we are stuck offshore do you care? When we see friends burn to death do you care? When we are clear that a company has killed our fellow workers do you care?

Environmentalists, Politicians and Corporate fat cats have never produced one single barrel of oil. You regulate my labor. You tax my labor. You steal the blood of good men Standards for my labor require me to pass test (urine test, breath test, HUET) before I am allowed on the job site. Yet you give my dollars to those who are never tested. You feed America our bloods labor. What can any of you produce that is of value to this nation? Each of you is a parasite on the backs of Americans and workers. You fly around the globe on jets fueled by our labor. You drive your armed motorcades on fuel that we provide you. Your natural gas heaters are fueled with our blood. When you talk about alternative energy you slap our face for all we have given you. You are Al Gore whining pigs at a plastic trough that we provided you. You are Hollywood millionaires that don’t provide anything of value. Scream about clean energy while driving and flying around the globe.

Each person in government that allowed the President to shut down Ultra-Deepwater Exploration failed working men in women. B.P. will never meet the needs of our families. Lawyers with law firms will turn this case into a class action law suit that will line their pockets. Blood money paid for by Oil Workers. We have just given 11 brothers to the effort of providing a nation with oil and gas. Politicians now repay us with unemployment. I am a proud American Oil Worker. I am not proud of the thieves that are destructing the American Oil Workers way of life. Shame on Politicians and those you work with.

When you shut down our work you only bring pain to the innocent. You need to understand we are not union workers with a hand out. We have invented and built an industry that provides America with tools for independence. Oil Workers understand pain, we learn from every mistake that spills a drop of our blood. When you hurt one of us; we will bring pain to your political dream world. Wake up Washington when you shut down our rigs you solve nothing. You are creating a burden on hard working men and women. We will not allow your destruction of our work efforts. Your lies about caring for our safety are wasted words. We know more about safety then the corporate giant B.P. Your efforts should be to control B.P. and their created oil spill. While America screams at the environmental cost, remember your liability. Not one Oil Worker gave B.P. permission to drill. Not one Oil Worker overlooked the B.P. failures of the past. The men on the Deepwater Horizon knew something was wrong. Failed negative test were a clear indication that the drilling fluid should not be displaced. B.P. knew they failed to bump their cement plug on the casing cement job. It should be investigated how much they over displaced the cement. B.P. made the decision not run a cement bond log. Each of you must look at real facts Blow Out Preventers are well named; they are not Blow Out Stoppers. Follow safety practices that don’t allow blow-outs. B.P. allowed this blow-out to take place.

Stopping the blow out in deep water is the lesson we are all watching. How did B.P. fail to turn back with key indications that the well was flowing? All the signs were given; concerns were raised by members of the Horizon crews. B.P. acted with an arrogant disregard for human life and safety. B.P. deserves punishment for their disregard. We have already started implementing testing to verify we will not have another Horizon incident. We have cried at the loss of our brothers. Shame is not ours. America may hate us and what we do; because we are painted as bad men. After 20 years of success the speculation that we are men with no concern for our environment is out of line. We are not the millionaire C.E.O.’s that we work for. We are men with families that trust us to earn a living at a dangerous job. Each hitch offshore we work to return all crew members to their loved ones. Every man that does this work cares about his nation. Your failure to allow us to make America energy independent is recorded for history to judge. You have sold out your nation; not the Ultra-Deepwater Drill Crews.

Trust that we will not stand-by idle as you destroy our work. We are not some union wimps that rely on government assistance. You keep us out of work for 6 months; watch the power that will join the Tea Party Movement. We are men that shaped and built this industry with blood and sweat. We will engineer a massive shut down of your permit to wreck lives. Someone should investigate who is making profit on this spill. Check the ties to the Obama Administration. One word- NALCO
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ltorna1 wrote:
landlocked beachbum wrote:


IMHO, FOX news is as fair to libs as they are to anyone else



are we watching the same channel Confused


That's out of context: the rest of what I said explains my point. You may not agree but that doesn't necessarily make me incorrect!

sotx23, you said "Easy to find, shallow, land based or <1,000' offshore wells are a thing of the past! Get used to it!"

Why have you not included ANWAR, and the enormous reserves of oil shale in the USA......................... BOTH on LAND! I'm no oil guy, your points are well taken {no pun intended). I believe that deep offshore drilling is crazy when we have huge reserves on land and close inshore. Where am I screwing up here?

http://dailyreckoning.com/oil-shale-reserves/

Here's one excerpt from the above copy: "Estimated U.S. oil shale reserves total an astonishing 1.5 trillion barrels of oil – or more than five times the
stated reserves of Saudi Arabia. This energy bounty is simply too large to ignore any longer, assuming that the reserves are economically viable. And yet, oil shale lies far from the radar screen of most investors."
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delliott00 wrote:
Unless someone is Amish, then saying that we should both cut back on oil production AND become less dependent on foreign oil is HYPOCRITICAL!!!

But I'm guessing most people on this forum are not Amish? If you are, then GTFO the internet Ezekiel! Wink

Seriously, though, I blame BP 100% for cutting corners and allowing this disaster to get this bad.

However, I blame the short sighted NIMBY "green" folks, and the people they elect, for forcing them to drill out where the risks of being unable to stop a blowout are much, much higher.

These are the same folks who will now knee-jerk us into a worse energy crisis than the environmental crisis we already have.

I say drill offshore, inshore, and on ANWAR too, just don't cut corners on safety. If you want to cut back on offshore drilling, fine, but lets open up some other areas to offset that. But, we also need develop stuff like tidal power, wind, algae-based diesel, nuclear, etc. And stop subsidizing corn ethanol while we're at it. My boat don't like it! Smile

-Dave


I agree with everything you said.


One of my main complaints against alternative energy is that a good percentrage of people think if they put solar panels on their house, they should get some huge government refund.

why is it the government's (I.E. MY tax dollars) responsibility to pay for "green energy"?

people talk about all the great, wonderful idealistic green energy sources... yet unless there's some huge government reimpbursement, or it's heavily subsidized, no one jumps into it.

I think I'm going to open a unicorn farm, and harness the power of their farts....I bet I can get those libtards in washington to fund it for me.... who cares if it's cost effective, more efficient, or even real.... It will be "alternative", and by golly, that should be good enough for a federal grant.


landlocked.... those shale reserves are not all they're cracked up to be.

everyone will know soon enough, and I can't really get into specifics.... but I will say that the estimated reserves on the various shale plays across the country are WAAAAAYYYYY over estimated. The shale wells are not producing anywhere near what original estimates were, except in very limited areas of each given play. Right now, wells are being drilled, and money is being lost on practically all of them (probably 70%), and the only reason they are being drilled is to prevent acreage from being lost due to contract terms. There is one of them that seems to be paying out better than most.... but with $4 natural gas.... it ain't happening.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you get this Info at?????????? Im calling BS...they still profit in the 3 1/2 dollar area......................

landlocked.... those shale reserves are not all they're cracked up to be.

everyone will know soon enough, and I can't really get into specifics.... but I will say that the estimated reserves on the various shale plays across the country are WAAAAAYYYYY over estimated. The shale wells are not producing anywhere near what original estimates were, except in very limited areas of each given play. Right now, wells are being drilled, and money is being lost on practically all of them (probably 70%), and the only reason they are being drilled is to prevent acreage from being lost due to contract terms. There is one of them that seems to be paying out better than most.... but with $4 natural gas.... it ain't happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil Field Trash,
Agree with you about the government (i.e. you and me) paying for "green" energy. Of course, it was the same people who are screaming for more green energy who ruined the USA's chance to have a truly green energy policy. If all the left wingers and greeners has just allowed the country to build clean, enviro friendly nuke plants we wouldn't need all the tax dollars financing some rich guys solar panels.

Also, look up the stats on the estimated nuimber of deaths caused by power plant polution (mostly coal). The blood is on the hands of the so called environmentalists who stopped each and every nuke plant proposed. All those trillions of tons of pollutants needlessly pumped into the atmosphere in the name of enviromentalism.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Live video is worth a thousand words.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/brown-sludge-washing-ashore/9742-1_53-50088919.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI. if you want to attend a local live panel discussion at TAMUCC.

NEWS RELEASE

HRI Panel to be Broadcast Live on Internet: The third of four panels the Harte Research Institute for Gulf of Mexico Studies (HRI) at Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi is holding to discuss the long-term impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil disaster on the world’s sixth-largest body of water will be broadcast live over the Internet on Ustream tomorrow (Friday, June 1Cool, from 3:30-4:30 p.m. in the Harte Research Institute, Conference Room 127. To access the meeting, go to http://www.ustream.tv/user/tamuccvideogallery and click on “TAMUCC HRI Panel Discussion on Gulf Oil Spill.”

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oilfield II, you are dead on correct about the shale plays. Steep initial decline with no real conversion into hyperbolic. The marcelous may be ok but it has its own environmental logjams, the others just don't pay out at the current gas prices.

Is it just me or is the kill well much closer to being ready for the kill than they are telling us.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A link to more pictures. Now imagine that is is our beaches & birds in the pictures.........

http://www.examiner.com/ExaminerSlideshow.html?entryid=1359716&slide=1
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="troutsacker"]Where do you get this Info at?????????? Im calling BS...they still profit in the 3 1/2 dollar area......................

quote]

oh I dont' know....

mainly it comes from the guys that run the reservoir department a couple floors down from me....

just FYI.... not all wells come on at the same rates across the country. Not all wells cost the same to drill. Not all wells are in the same production zones.

The shortage of frac sand is starting to get worse, increasing the price of frac jobs.... last one I saw for a horizontal shale well was 20% more for the frac job than the well cost to drill. That's always been the downside of these horizontal shale wells, and tight sands.... frac jobs are a huge cost, and like crhfish said.. the production curves on these wells are terrible. They may have initial production rates coming on at 15-20 million feet per day, but 30 days later, they are down to 1.5 million.... all of the speculators see the initial production rates, not the true curves, hence, not the true reserve potential of what is occuring.

I think it will be OK though... my speculation is that within a year, gas prices are going to increase due to the false speculation of reserves... it would be a lot better if natural gas got to about $5.50 or so. We certainly don't need it to spike back to $12 or $13 like it did a few years ago.... that created a huge consumer and manufacturing cost increase that can't be absorbed right now in this economy. $5.50 gas would allow these wells to be profitable, while not causing a huge increase to teh consumer and industry that uses it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crhfish wrote:
Oilfield II, you are dead on correct about the shale plays. Steep initial decline with no real conversion into hyperbolic. The marcelous may be ok but it has its own environmental logjams, the others just don't pay out at the current gas prices.

Is it just me or is the kill well much closer to being ready for the kill than they are telling us.


I've got a friend on the discovery III, I think he said when he went on days off about a week ago, they were at 15,000 MD about to run their final string prior to drilling the interval which will intersect the original well.

I'm thinking BP put that august timeline out there to make sure they sandbagged their timeline enough to meet the "goal" of drilling the relief well.

can yhou imagine if they put an early july timeline out there, and then ran into some lost circulation, or had to circulate gas out for a couple weeks? the media would have gone into a poo poo of BS about them falling behind schedule and possibly cutting corners.... God knows what else.

anyway... from what I heard, they were just discussing final plans for mud properties in the last few days for the kill.

Lets all hope it goes as planned.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be fantastic if the kill well completes sooner rather than later.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Came across this article and thought it ironic that BP earlier this year advocated to the Canadian Gubberment that their policy on relief wells (requirement to show 'same season capability') was too strict, and unnecessary in view of today's technology and safety measures.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127381814

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, BP told the Canada's National Energy Board, which regulates offshore oil drilling in the country, that it should repeal a 34-year-old policy on relief wells. The company said relief wells can be superseded by the technology and sophistication of modern drilling rigs.

The policy applies to the Beaufort Sea, stretching across the top of the Northwest Territories and the Yukon next to Alaska. The drilling season there is cut short by ice. The policy isn't even all that strict.

"An operator needs to demonstrate that there is a viable system that can be deployed to drill a well, a relief well, in the same season as the original well, should the original well go out of control," said Bharat Dixit, leader of the NEB conservation-of-resources team.

In fact, the policy is called "same-season relief well capability," making clear that a company doesn't actually have to drill the relief well unless there's a blowout; it just has to be prepared.


Uh Oh, don't look now, but looks like the relief well thing is picking up steam.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/15/oil-spill-response-senato_n_612666.html?ir=Politics

"Oil Spill Response: Senator Introduces Bill Demanding Preemptive Relief Well Drilling"
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the life of me, I cannot understand why this country can't build and further develop nuke plants (the dad gum FRENCH do it)...use more coal, stick a well in close, or go to ANWR, and ALSO develop and enhance Solar and Wind generated power.

Do you guys realize that a typical nuke plant costs about $10 Billion to construct. By the time we, the tax payer spend and pay for the 'Stimulus Bill', we will have spent over $1 Trillion dollars...that's 100 Nuke plants, or 2 for every state. Now figure out how many people that would employ to build them, how many people it would take to man them, how many people it would take to maintain and upgrade them...you get my drift?

I'd love for us, the good old USA to put a big old wad of Beechnut in our mouth, chew it up, get it good and sticky, and spit a big old glop of spit right in the eye of Hugo Chavez, OPEC, and every other tin horn little dip **** that we force ourselves to deal with...and just walk away from them...but nope, we won't go get what our country was blessed with, and use the POWER and INGENUITY of the American workforce to further develop new technologies that would allow us to just walk away from the likes of those that hate us, because we want their oil.

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"For the life of me, I cannot understand why this country can't build and further develop nuke plants (the dad gum FRENCH do it)...use more coal, stick a well in close, or go to ANWR, and ALSO develop and enhance Solar and Wind generated power. "

Dude................... nothing magic there: liberalism, A.K.A. the environmental movement, "save the planet", "green" everything, "not in my backyard" BS!!!!! This crap is being taught to our kids in school. It's called indoctrination! Evil or Very Mad
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