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Capt Mike Singleterry Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2728
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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What?????? Those brilliant minds can't get the job done.
I sure hope the CEO of BP gets his life back soon.
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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure there are eleven families that would like their loved ones still alive. There are probably those that represent the 20% unemployment rate in this country would LOVE to be as occupied as the people at BP trying to clean up their disaster, including that CEO. I can't believe he said that... pure dumbass.
I also changed the title for you Mike. It's a pretty old thread. I think I posted it when they were about to lower the first containment domes over the BOP.... you're right, not really fitting any longer.
Frayed... that guy isn't necesarily FOS, but he is over dramatizing the effect of the erosion, as well as the dooms day scenario.
The relief wells should be there next month, and depending on how long it takes to actually intersect the wellbore (think of hitting a 7" target 3 miles away). I hope to God they intersect it the first time... |
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fishinglady Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 857 Location: N. Padre Island
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I read the post...and had a sinking feeling that the guy is right. The link is already taken down/not working, so thank you for posting the words.
BP has lied about how much oil was and is spewing out and about everything else. Yes, it is a doomsday scenario for the Gulf, which is why no one else is talking about the harsh reality we will have to face. I think Texas needs to be planning how to try to save our beaches, and maybe close off Packery channel, Mansfield pass. Port Aransas, and other passes to try to keep it out of the intracoastal waterway, the Laguna Madre, and our bays and estuaries. Probably futile.... I read that it is already into the intracoastal waterway in FL. |
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SaltyCuda Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 892 Location: Corpus
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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it's gonna be ok folks, the Mayan's said we only have until 2012 anyway!
Gloom and Doom = Reactionary |
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frayed Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 1535 Location: Austin and a lil East of the Bluff
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure how one can say 'reactionary' after two months of spewage with no end in sight. _________________ Jeff
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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| It's still all about selling media time. granted, this spill is horrible. But it's just like anything else. Good stories don't sell papers. Dead people, fires, oily pelicans and pissed off people are what sells papers. It's a bad anough deal... I don't need to see every thing that "might" happen. what's going to happen is going to happen. I know some of the people that are working with BP, and they've got a lot of good people working on this deal, really the best in the industry right now. hopefully they will get this thing shut in soon..... |
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crhfish Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 574
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Oil field I will disagree with you just a little. I think there is a 10% chance the kill wells will not work. It depends on the condition of the well bore down deep and it has been flowing quite a bit for a while now. Big volumes in a small hole with a possible casing collapse.
I will also bet that new rules about being anywhere near a floating platform on the way. Terrorists have now seen what blowing up one rig can do to this country. |
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SaltyCuda Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 892 Location: Corpus
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Just like this: Reactionary!
I was refering to the oh my god it's the end of the gulf comments.
Read my earlier posts on this topic, I don't normally repeat myself and I don't want to start a bad habit.
I was not speaking to any of your posts, just the cut and paste of a reactionary!
Let me be clear, I don't like this! it's not a good thing, I am hopeful it will be fixed soon, it will have negative consequences. (beyound what we see today) |
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Capt Mike Singleterry Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the title change OFT....It was kinda strange to read a title about something that wasn't happening. As for the 11 that lost their lives in the disaster, I for one haven't forgotten them nor have I forgotten the
15 souls that lost their live in the BP refining disaster in 2005.
It seems BP is unable to recognize future risk in their decisions.
I talk to a few people that are working daily at the sites both boat captains
and oil service reps every few days. None of them seem to think its a photo opt. but say it's the biggest mess they have ever seen.
It's really ashame we don't have the tech. to control this disaster.
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| fishinglady wrote: | I read the post...and had a sinking feeling that the guy is right. The link is already taken down/not working, so thank you for posting the words.
BP has lied about how much oil was and is spewing out and about everything else. Yes, it is a doomsday scenario for the Gulf, which is why no one else is talking about the harsh reality we will have to face. I think Texas needs to be planning how to try to save our beaches, and maybe close off Packery channel, Mansfield pass. Port Aransas, and other passes to try to keep it out of the intracoastal waterway, the Laguna Madre, and our bays and estuaries. Probably futile.... I read that it is already into the intracoastal waterway in FL. |
With all due respect, you CAN'T be serious here???? Without the (very little, relatively speaking) tidal flow through the passes the bay and especially the flats would roast, become stagnant and die!!!!!!!  _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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crhfish,
from what I have seen that BP put out, they are planning on intersecting the casing string at the shoe of the previous casing string (can't remember the casing diameter prior to the production string). you still have oil coming in from the production zone, and if it coming up the backside, when they kill the well from the relief well, you will still have the same effect. The oil isn't originating from further up the well. It's originating from below the shoe of the casing string set previous to the prodcution string. For certain the wellbore is in bad shape... flowing without a choke for 50 odd days isn't good.... but still.. I don't see why a casing collapse downhole would change the outcome of the relief well. If so, they can intersect further up the well into the annulus that it might be migrating through. In my thinking, once the "zone" of production is killed, that's it.
as for the possible new rules regarding fishing around the rigs... I would bet you are right. I'm surprised we didn't see new rules after 9/11. perhaps they thought the chances were slim of any major disaster... now we have seen that isn't right. It wouldnt' take much for a boat full of terrorists to come up from mexico and reak havoc in the gulf... |
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frayed Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 1535 Location: Austin and a lil East of the Bluff
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:01 am Post subject: |
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So I was beat up for the mere suggestion of simultaneous relief well drilling to prevent this mess in the future, and pointed out that BP's relief well plans were, well, non existent.
Today's paper brought up the same subject.
What we have today is a huge case of externalities: BP placing the true cost of drilling on the residents of the entire country and especially the gulf coast people directly dependent on the gulf for a livelihood. Really, is it too much to ask BP to internalize these costs. . . that in certain conditions (depth, proximity to the coastline, existence of wetlands, population density, etc) that a relief well must be drilled, or no permit is granted? If it is economically not feasible to drill a second well, then one could argue they have no business drilling in certain spots/conditions.
 _________________ Jeff
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troutsacker Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 268 Location: Calallen ,Texas
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: |
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In responce to News Paper Clipping .....That's Retarted and makes no sence at all, _________________
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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:17 am Post subject: |
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frayed,
the basic issue of drilling a "relief" well at the same time as the "main" well is that you can't possibly drill the relief well with some planned intersection of a well that doesnt exist yet.
they drill the main well at some geographic point on the globe. Until they get the well completed, it could vary by hundreds of feet at the bottom of the well.
if they run into issues with the "main" well, and the relief well goes along just fine, then you have a rig costing a little over a million a day sitting there doing nothing...
keep in mind, there have been around 700 wells drilled in deepwater, and nothing has every happend before like this here.
drilling a relief well for every main well would double the number of wells in deepwater, hence doubling the chance for accidents.
it will double the cost of drilling these wells....We cannot stay competitive in the global drilling market if the costs escalates overnight by that magnitude... so in effect, it would shut it down for the gulf of mexico.
the rigs will go off to some other country, and instead of a 6 month abn, it will be permanent.
also.. I love how the media cherry picks when they want to like people... a few days ago, admiral thad was a bastage for not picking up the pace... now he's an expert who's opinions hold water? |
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frayed Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 1535 Location: Austin and a lil East of the Bluff
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:27 am Post subject: |
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When all this is over, I'd like to see a financial analysis of the costs of this spill v. mandatory relief wells on the highest risk operations, since it's difficult for me to believe that the total cost of the cleanup is not in excess of preemptive secondary well drilling.
In any event, here are recent updates
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 _________________ Jeff
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