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Braid on light action spinning reel?
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fishbyte
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was kayak fishing on the Pedernales river last weekend for white bass using 6lb fluro and 1/16 oz. and smaller jigheads. The river and wind were both jamming. 2 casts, 2 wind knots. I put that pole away and moved to a Sedona 2500 w/ 20lb Power Pro. No more wind knots.

On Sunday I snuck over to my dealer's house (OK, big box retail store) for some 10lb Suffix braid (#12) and a new ultralight pole. I'll let you know how it goes...
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jimk
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're using spinning....you should be using braid. It's what brought me back to spinning reels. On wind knots, I don't know if this makes a difference, but never reel in without tension. I like to use spinning wading on windy days and slinging lures either into or crosswind. I have developed a habit of manually releasing the bail and raising the rod tip to put tension on the line as it's being reeled in. if I can't put tension by raising the rod, then I'll hold the line between the tips of two fingers to create tension.

I also use a mono/fluoro leader but I'm not sure you really need a leader. Plenty of people tie directly to braid and seem to catch fish.

Good luck.
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landlocked beachbum
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I resemble that remark! I had pretty much lost interest in spinning gear until Spider Wire came out many years back.

On the bail thingy: Most bass pros manually flip the bail too, and I've started doing it. It's simple to ease your hand down there and flip it over and at the same time feel for a loop of line caught on the drag knob.


Ditto on the loose/snug line thing too. I walk the dog with my spinning rigs and every now and then reel in a slack loop while doing so. By paying attention to what's happening on the spool before every cast I can usually just cast the loop out. It seems that casting and reeling back and forth over the loop but never quite getting to that point in the line continues to twist and turn the loose loop, and many times it ties itself into a slip knot. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
On the bail thingy: Most bass pros manually flip the bail too, and I've started doing it. It's simple to ease your hand down there and flip it over and at the same time feel for a loop of line caught on the drag knob.


Ditto on the loose/snug line thing too. I walk the dog with my spinning rigs and every now and then reel in a slack loop while doing so. By paying attention to what's happening on the spool before every cast I can usually just cast the loop out. It seems that casting and reeling back and forth over the loop but never quite getting to that point in the line continues to twist and turn the loose loop, and many times it ties itself into a slip knot. Embarassed


Same Here!!!

I don't think that any of my spinning reels have ever had the reel crank close a bail. It is part of my casting action. I flip that bail closed with my reeling hand every cast. I have even considered removing the bails all together. I do it so my lure stays on top of the grass. I am usually reeling before it hits the water. I too walk the dog with spinners and that is when I get a loop over the spool as you stated.

Oh BTW - I used to use fluorocarbon leaders but I switched to braid straight to the lure last year. No more break offs on monster blow-ups and I haven't noticed any less hook-ups. I'm sticking with braid-to-the-lure thru this season to make sure. And I'm fishing the flats down there with gin clear water.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I tie directly from braid to topwater lures I get lots of hook fouling from the lure walking over the limp, floating line. I still go that way at times though because as you say, it's on less link in the chain.

On that point, I use back to back uni knots with a drop of super glue and don't have any problem with the connection coming apart or breaking the leader off as long as the leader is at least as strong as the braid.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too on the flipping the bail over manually. You have to if you are fishing shallow flats with grass because by the time you did it using the reel, your lure would be too deep. I noticed that when the Kiwis went fishing with Sikes and I with Aubrey Black. We had to show them how to do that.
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robul
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes always close the bail manually right when the lures hits the water or right before.. will help you from getting wind knots without a doubt. Even on my high end stella I never turn the handle to close the bail. Make a habbit of it and you want have problems.
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jimk
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That top water fouling the limp braid is a pest...I'm going to experiment....if I ever get to go fishing again...with leaving a short piece of mono/fluoro tied to the top water and then tying to the short leader. You can leave a loop knot in the short piece of leader...but this is getting complicated.
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