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bulldog1935 · Last edited by bulldog1935 on Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:15 pm; edited 2 times in total

they changed the date, I edited with new announcement

I believe all aspects of this project will be under TCEQ microscope. At least in part because it's the first step in a CMP "water grid."
It would be good to attend the meeting to hear how the state plans to monitor the environmental performance of the plant - and ask the question if it's not presented in anticipation.

cuzn dave · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 465

Is the main driving force behind building this facility to provide water for the community or to support the gas plant in Portland?
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bulldog1935 · Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:31 pm Post subject:

Maybe I feel compelled to answer. I think it's to get Desal off the ground, but probably plant water is a part of it - no plant needs that much water - plants operate pretty efficiently with their water, but they still have to get a permit from the water provider.
Again this year, it seems crazy talking about needing fresh water in the ground and rivers, but with growth, we were behind the curve last drought and the next drought will be destructive without moving forward with Desal public water.

However, the people to ask are at the meeting on Feb 28 - I believe you can also submit your question in advance to receive a written response in advance of the meeting.

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

re-read the announcement....it says that the TCEQ has already "determined that no significant degradation of water quality is expected...."

which we all know isn't the case...that much brine discharged directly into the ship channel will definitely have an effect...

to get TCEQ to hold a meeting, someone had to either collect a bunch of signatures or threaten legal action...they typically don't hold meetings like this...
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Donnie · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:45 pm Post subject:

Becky, and whoever else knows, whats the best way to fight this ? Do you and the scientists on this forum agree that this is going to negatively affect - what we love to do ? I write software, I fish, and I read a lot. I do not have the knowledge to put this into perspective. If they dont do desal , are there other options , that are worse for us sportsmen and this is the best of the bad choices ?

Donnie

hickroots07 · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:07 pm Post subject:

You would think collecting rainwater on years where we have an abundance, and storing for years we dont might be an environmentally friendly idea. I just hate the idea of dumping brine into our waters and possibly having such a big negative impact to our ecosystem and one of the biggest past times in the area. Theres gotta be another way.
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Donnie · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:30 pm Post subject:

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

I'm all for desal, because it takes pressure off of our already dwindling resources....but it needs to be done responsibly...
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Cricket · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:31 pm Post subject:

Why fight the de-sal plant? I"ve had the opportunity to go to several Caribbean islands over the past 10 years scuba diving, and all of them obtain their potable (drinkable) water from de-sal plants. They all have an abundance of sea life. Yes, it may be saltier right at the discharge point, but some marine animals like that. My estimation though is that shortly after it discharges, the saltier water will quickly dissipate and become negligible in the totality of the Bay. We live on a huge area of salt water. The Texas Coast should never have a water shortage and de-sal is the future to ensure that.

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

Donnie · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:43 pm Post subject:

bulldog1935 · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:29 pm Post subject:

Yes, TCEQ has approved the discharge, which means they've approved the Harbor Island Desal plant.
Here's where you can monitor the activities of the science team that made the conclusion stated in the announcement regarding bay water quality

https://www.tceq.texas.gov/permitting/water_rights/wr_technical-resources/eflows/nueces-bbest

Corpus water usage from the Nueces has dipped into the established minimum Nueces River discharge needed for environmental health of the bays since 2003.

http://cbbep.org/publications/BBASCWorkPlan.pdf

Rxfire · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:11 pm Post subject:

Hmmm....

Island Moon said desal plant at Harbor Is was dead...

but it was going to go somewhere near Ingleside/La Quinta?

http://islandmoon.com/

bulldog1935 · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:05 am Post subject:

they probably reported Mark Twain was dead, too

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974