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lagunarat1975 · Last edited by lagunarat1975 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:30 pm; edited 1 time in total

Thinking very hard about about repowering my pathfinder 17T currently have a good dependable 60HP Yami 2000 but want the fuel economy of the four stroke, couple of questions ,I regularly make the run to the Hole in the summer (17 gal tank burns 15-16) will the four stroke really burn that much less gas,can you use the same controls, and are the newer motors snappy as the old 2strokes .salesman says yes on the snappy part but I generally don't belive salesmen any help or exp valued
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OneMoreCast88 · Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:12 pm Post subject:

I've had experience with the 2 stroke vmax and the modern 4 stroke. Your tunnel shot will reduce noticably, but the fuel economy is eye popping. Factor in the noise reduction and its really a no brainer.

joejoe7716 · Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:45 pm Post subject:

Your fuel economy will double. My buddy's 17' bay stealth skiff has a Yamaha 60 four stroke....the older one with carbs. We launch at marker 37 and burns less than 10 gallons to the hole and back...

Hole shot sux and the boat feels back heavy.

If you can afford it, do it. But you can buy a lot of fuel with the cost of a new motor.

I still have a ocean pro 225 that burns a ton of fuel compared to a four stroke. I just cant justify 16k on a new four stroke.

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:10 am Post subject:

Just for your info: Evinrude Etecs get 4 stroke mileage without the weight, are quiet, don't smoke, and still have that great 2 stroke blast off. I run an 18' long x 8' wide heavy Jon boat up with an Etec 115. The boat has a 14 gallon built in rank and gets 7 mpg! Shocked

This rig tops out at 47 mph too! Twisted Evil

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lagunarat1975 · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:13 pm Post subject:

thanks for the replies, scared of losing the hole shot and I am a yammie guy just couldnt do an evinrude just might rock that 2 stroke till it croaks 10 grand is a lot of morracans
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Bigun23 · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:00 pm Post subject:

Etecs are great on paper and look pretty snazzy too BUT.... when they break.... bring your pocket book... and a jar of vaseline ( the big one!!!). I had one at my last place of employment. All computers and they are particular about the fuel and oil types too.
Just my 2 cents for what its worth.
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landlocked beachbum · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject:

shin_deep · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:19 pm Post subject:

[quote="landlocked beachbum"]Just for your info: Evinrude Etecs get 4 stroke mileage without the weight, are quiet, don't smoke, and still have that great 2 stroke blast off. I run an 18' long x 8' wide heavy Jon boat up with an Etec 115. The boat has a 14 gallon built in rank and gets 7 mpg! Shocked

Ditto on the E-tech. I have a 16 ft. skiff with a 60 E-tech. From bird island to 9 mi hole and back on 10.5 gal.
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captfrankie · Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: Swap

I would give Dennis Stumfol at Bernie's in Victoria a call. He is very knowledgable when it comes to anything about boats. He is a Yamaha dealer. Been in business since the 50's. Honest.
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Mason · Horse Mullet Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 102

4 stroke all the way! running a 2007 175 suzuki now, switched about 2 years ago and will probably never go back. extremely quiet (i used to have to turn around to make sure it was running or look at the tach), fuel milage is amazing, maintenance is a snap - actually easier than changing the oil in a car/truck. in my opinion, more reliable. will last a lot longer- the "top of the hill" for 2 strokes is at about 300-400hrs, while 4 strokes are 1000hrs+, thats what the boat mechanic told me.

only downside is your holeshot isnt as great, but most of the time you dont need to get on plane THAT fast anyway. always figured, im fishing.... im not in so big of a rush. just my opinion there.

im curious as to why more guides havent switched to 4 stroke already, id personally give up that little hole shot loss to have a motor that was more fuel efficient and lasted longer. but hey, im not a fishing guide either!!!
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speckled.trout · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Posts: 1190

I've got a 2 stroke Etech with 1240 hrs. Still runs real good, just ask those who own a 4 stroke.

I guess it all depends on how someone takes care of the motor rather than
what a outboard mechanic tells ya.

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landlocked beachbum · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:24 pm Post subject:

Most likely because the guides use their motors to put food on the table and pay the bills. All seems pretty academic to me! Wink

The Etec that I'm speaking of is used on a sailing club chase/work bait and run by any number of absolute power boat retards. After 4 seasons and a conservative 400 hours AND being run for a while 6 months back with GASOLINE in the oil tank (I did say retards!!!!), it still runs as good as new and still gets the same mpg. That says a lot for a motor in my book! Shocked

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CROAKERSOAKER · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 491

I second that on Bernie's in Victoria.
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rodandroll · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: