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Boating Accident March 23rd?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Boating Accident March 23rd? Reply with quote

I heard there was a boating accident involving a Bule Wave and an SCB Sat in the fog near JFK bridge? Both boats were evidently in redfish tourny but have not confirmed any of the above.

Anyne with info?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.corpusfishing.com/messageboard/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26268
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody may get slapped over this one. Not pointing any fingers, but someone always takes the fall. Important thing is no one was seriously injured.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Boating Accident March 23rd? Reply with quote

[quote=]CORPUS CHRISTI (Kiii News) - What started as a fishing trip turned into a scary ordeal for one man after two boats collide in the water near Padre Island. Fire crews from Flour Bluff caught up with the boats at a bait shop at the end of the JFK Causeway. Officials say the fog played a role in the crash and while the damage was minor, one of the fishermen involved was hurt. Flour Bluff Volunteer Fire Fighter Landon Sherman said, "I think they were going a little too fast. It's pretty dangerous. Luckily no one seriously hurt." As a precaution, one of the fishermen was taken to the hospital to get checked out.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the guy was in a no-wake zone, theres no speed limit on the water, just distance rules from other vessels. The fog is the factor in this incident. The speed just happened to be there. For those of yall that dont understand tournament fishing, TIME=MONEY! Some of these guys/gals make their livings fishing these events and have sponsors to please as well. Safety is always #1, but accidents happen.
Those boats run 70mph on open water for a reason, to get from point A to point B quickly due to time limits and mandatory check points! Its up to the operator to be competent enough to pilot that vessel safely at that speed and with respect to other vessels in his/her path.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm!

Hauling Freight in the Fog. Seems pretty ignorant to me...

Fishing Tourney does not trump common sense. (or, it shouldn't)

Speed was definitely a factor, you can't possibly say otherwise. Slow both boats down and not only is it unlikely they would collide, if they did, it would be nothing more than a bump.

It is interesting how these Tourney folks seem to think that some rules (common sense or other) don't apply.

How you accomplish results are as important as the results themselves, integrity, safety are values, basic values that we all should have. Putting others in harms way for cash. Not Smart!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said, you basically took the words out of my mouth! This is similar to folks blaming everything except the idiot responsible for whatever accident, crash, etc. like blaming guns for shootings and vehicles for wrecks. Inanimate objects do malfunction on occasion, but not nearly as much as the people who use them!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They weren't going THAT fast....

"damage was minor". If they would have been going fast, people wouldn't be walking away from this deal.

go run into the dock at 10 MPH next time you're at the ramp and see what happens to the people in your boat.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is why they call them "accidents".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil Field Trash II wrote:
They weren't going THAT fast....

"damage was minor". If they would have been going fast, people wouldn't be walking away from this deal.

go run into the dock at 10 MPH next time you're at the ramp and see what happens to the people in your boat.



OK!

Now slow them down some more and check the results!

I get it my friend.

Fog limits visiblity, if you can't see the bow of your boat, you should slow down or find a place to wait it out.

I once launched at bluff landing in my yak, it was foggy, I found myself in extreme danger from power boats running on plane in zero visibility. I was not with these guys over the weekend so I cannot speak to thier specifics but I have seen some pretty stupid people at the helm.

And like LLBB said, take responsibility for your actions, don't blame it on the FOG. (or the gun) People are in control, not things...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many tournament anglers think regular rules don't apply to them. While I wasn't there, I have experienced enough 'issues' with tournament anglers running at high speed too close to me, through no wake zones, through my drift zone, etc. etc. etc. to have strong suspicions right off the bat. I've never met one yet that would slow down for 100 yard visibility. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaltyCuda wrote:
Oil Field Trash II wrote:
They weren't going THAT fast....

"damage was minor". If they would have been going fast, people wouldn't be walking away from this deal.

go run into the dock at 10 MPH next time you're at the ramp and see what happens to the people in your boat.



OK!

Now slow them down some more and check the results!

I get it my friend.

Fog limits visiblity, if you can't see the bow of your boat, you should slow down or find a place to wait it out.

I once launched at bluff landing in my yak, it was foggy, I found myself in extreme danger from power boats running on plane in zero visibility. I was not with these guys over the weekend so I cannot speak to thier specifics but I have seen some pretty stupid people at the helm.

And like LLBB said, take responsibility for your actions, don't blame it on the FOG. (or the gun) People are in control, not things...


do you have lights on your kayak? Kayaks are tough to see, and some of the ones that are dark colored, or greenish blue can still be hard to see in daylight hours.

there was a guy anchored in the ICW around the pink cabin and he had some incredible LED lights, he was flashing them as boats came by. It certainly made a difference.. I'm thinking of getting some on my boat to leave on when anchored, since the typical running lights aren't all that great.

I have seen MANY kayaks with absolutely no lighting at all. These days even if I'm wading anywhere a boat might be, I wear a headlamp.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chat forum quote --

"I was on the water that morning and the tourney crew coming thru headed south were plenty scary. You could not see ten feet in front of your boat and many of the teams were running by GPS and not slowing down. I left the intercoastal and ducked behind a dock because they were making me nervous. The fog did not lift until around 10:00 but visibility was better once the sun came up. Running in fog like that in the dark is just suicide. I will leave that to the pros but I am surprised there were no deaths on Saturday. I know there were multiple boat wrecks reported but I do not think they were tourney folk. Surprised the tournament directors did not delay the start for safety reasons."
re: http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/showthread.php?t=482682&page=2

It's amazing to me that these Professional Redfish tournaments get to run a "for profit" operation without any type of surcharge by the state - even though Joe Q Public, you and I, are put at a safety risk, and typically the tournament area, a public resource, is monopolized by the participants for the weekend - if not also the week before the tournament.

Wait - here's the answer as to why this allowed (please note sarcasm ) --

Rudy's Redfish Series City Sponsors:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(the below did not post --)

Port Aransas Chamber of Commerce
City of Aransas Pass
City of Galveston
City of Freeport
Corpus Christi Chamber of Commerce

http://www.redfishseries.com/sponsors.aspx
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no one even knows who's at fault, but in typical CC fishing forum style, we're angry at the evil tournament fisherman.

any winnings have to be declared on income tax forms by federal law. So the government does indeed get a share of the proceeds. If the tournament director/organizer makes profit, that also has to be claimed. How much more in fees and taxes do people want to be imposed? What about the positive impact of the tournaments bringing in revenue to cities like corpus, Port A, etc?

As far as being in danger, tournament fisherman are on the water far more than your average boater, and typically have better boating skills. I see far more asynine behavior by drunk spring breakers, jet skiers, and fishNski boaters who've never been around the flats before.

I pulled a guy off the bank in the landcut saturday morning who got into one of the washes on the east side of the cut... he was a family fisherman that was just out for a good day of fishing with his family, and made a mistake. things happen.


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