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The Trash Heap
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 Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: Bait & Switch at Packery Again |
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Emailed the following LTTE to the C-T this morning, and cced the City Council, BAC, and CAC:
| Quote: | Last month, the City staff promised to brief the City Council on the status of the Packery TIF improvements, but then postponed the briefing until October. Why?
According to the September 15 agenda, the staff is intent on railroading the council into picking the membership of the boards which are to decide on the plans of the improvements and their financing next week, having the boards adopt new plans on the morning of September 22, then submitting the plans to the council for approval that afternoon. All this is to occur BEFORE the briefing, you see.
The agenda proposes adding the reconstruction of Zahn Road to the long-proposed construction of a roadway, parking lots, a bathhouse and handicapped ramps on the north side of the channel, but the only improvement mentioned south of the channel is a bathhouse. What happened to the rest of the jetty parks and the restoration of the undriveable portion of the seawall beach, all parts of existing ordinances?
Brief the council first to see if the people are still getting the Packery Project they voted for in 2001, and then decide if new plans achieve those goals. |
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fishinglady
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The Trash Heap
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I see the first website opens on an artist's conception of a project where the south revetment is cut and some of the state land is used for a marina. That same idea was part of the mega-resort the owner promoted back in 2006 until his bid to close the beach to vehicles was defeated. Drawings of that marina appeared in the C-T and also in a big display the referendum and charter amendment petition opponents erected next to the BAC's signing table at the courthouse.
The second website shows a design where the developer doesn't mess with the jetty or the adjacent state land. Although there was a lot of oongallawalla heaped up by the BAC's opposition, who claimed the BAC was a bunch of aginners who hated all developments, this second design where the resort sticks to private property would have been acceptable so long as the public kept its access to the beach and to the Packery Project it paid for. After all, such developments are needed to increase the taxable value of the private property and thus pay off the Packery TIF bonds.
Some of you may remember that, prior to the 2001 TIF election, the same landowner offered to buy all the TIF bonds if Packery Channel was re-opened, and back then he didn't ask for the beach to be closed to vehicles so he could build what he called at the time his Great Texas Resort. However, when the Corps redesigned the channel's location northward so it no longer ran next to his property, he reneged on his offer. Nonetheless, if he'll leave the beach and the Packery Project alone, I wish him well with his endeavors.
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frayed
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Got mixed feelings on that. There's already enough northern folk don heeahh. 
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chuck
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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well being a poor "native" who's got more than enuff economic challenges, this kind of makes me sick!!!!
i am all for capitalism and "healthy" growth, but it seems to me that with that kind of development, they will develop the navtives right out of the picture.
what about all the folks that get to use the ski basin for free now a days, where are they gonna go?
and then the new locals will maybe wanna take over the backside of the island, and we could loose places like kates & deadmans
and sure enuf those of us who wade and yak will have hardly any launch sites left
it would become just like and river front property in the texas hill country
NO TRESPASSING!
ALOWED
maybe not having development isn't a bad thing
sorry for the rambling, but it just seems scary to me......and it smells of deep pockets who don't give a crap about "the natives" |
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ccbobber
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:07 am Post subject: points of interest |
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is no one offended like me. he is advertising "his" new name for our island
as UPPER Padre. i think upper is the beginning of a new message to him and the ending is yours.
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Tyler
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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The Power brokers on the island are tired of people confusing North Padre Island with South Padre Island, so they thought they could include Mustang and North Padre and call it Upper Padre. Yeah that ought to work - NOT! About like the "Beach Country Blues" trademark. Who gets the blues at the beach? Maybe the people who get excluded from beaches by private resorts  |
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The best term limit in the world is to throw your local politicians out of office, just as needs done in Washington! 
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The Trash Heap
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyler wrote: | | The Power brokers on the island are tired of people confusing North Padre Island with South Padre Island, so they thought they could include Mustang and North Padre and call it Upper Padre. Yeah that ought to work - NOT! About like the "Beach Country Blues" trademark. Who gets the blues at the beach? Maybe the people who get excluded from beaches by private resorts |
I'm already confused every time I speak of the North Padre Island seawall. The historic division between Mustang and Padre Island was Packery Channel, which ran into the Gulf south of Whitecap Blvd. So everything north and east of "Lake Padre," including that seawall, the condos, the Holiday Inn, and "Balli Village" are on Mustang Island. Maybe we should call that fragment of Mustang Island "Lower Mustang" or, better yet, "Mustang's Rear End" after the horses' patoots who built the seawall and let them keep it. 
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rabbit
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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How do you confuse the words North and South? Sounds to me like they want to really confuse people and make them thing upper and lower are next to each other.
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frayed
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| rabbit wrote: | | How do you confuse the words North and South? Sounds to me like they want to really confuse people and make them thing upper and lower are next to each other. |
You'd be surprised.
When I tell people up in Austin "North Padre" they immediately convert it to "South Padre" in their brains, and start making comments appropriate for south padre, like the length of drive, spring break crowds, etc.
So now I just tell 'em Flour Bluff.
Strangely, they don't ask any more questions. Ha!
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Tyler
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| frayed wrote: | | rabbit wrote: | | How do you confuse the words North and South? Sounds to me like they want to really confuse people and make them thing upper and lower are next to each other. |
You'd be surprised.
When I tell people up in Austin "North Padre" they immediately convert it to "South Padre" in their brains, and start making comments appropriate for south padre, like the length of drive, spring break crowds, etc.
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Yes but won't they still confuse Upper Padre Island? I think some of the confusion starts with the signs on I 37 talking about South Padre Island Drive. Many people end up at the stripes at Whitecap asking how far it is to South Padre Island. |
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kweber
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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point 'em towards Laredo, Tyler.
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djohn71
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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South Padre Island owns the rights to the name "Padre Island" for use in literature, promotion, industry, etc.
A study was done by people (not local) to see which name worked to promote our area. Upper Padre was the one the focus groups selected.
We call it Upper Laguna Madre, the phrasing makes sense, but if you don't want development, it really doesn't matter what you call it.
Landry's, Bass Proshops, Schlitterbaun, we miss out on a lot. Our target tourist dollars are two of the biggest metropolitan areas in Texas, Austin and San Antonio. We are the quickest route to the beach for about 5 million people. Galveston gets Houston, DFW is a split, and the Valley doesn't have good air trans. SPI does get southern tourism, but we have the best spot on the coast.
I'd rather have tourist tax revenue than my tax revenue pay to make things nice. If you are awake, look around. Corpus is not as nice as it was 20-30 years ago. Other areas are growing and we are being left behind. I don't want to be the next Miami Beach, Ft Lauderdale, etc. I do want to see some nice things down here and revenue supporting our local businesses. How much busier would Roy's, Academy, the bait shops be with the uptick in people coming down.
"But it'll be too crowded, we'll be locked out of our fishing spots"
I already get run over by plenty of "locals" every weekend (not bluffers, though). I watched a friggin tower boat go out of Packery this afternoon. Yet somehow I still find places to fish, beaches to swim at, bait to buy (or catch), and quiet places to go. I'm pretty sure a lot of people will still go past the no trespassing signs on the back of Mustang to launch their kayaks.
Yeah, there are deep pockets and they do want something. But the majority of the money they want to make isn't off our backs. They still have to spend their money, and I'm pretty sure we all would want to make a profit on our endeavors. Listen to the plan, watch what they do, work with them to get what we want (reasonably) and see what happens.
We've got the right people in office downtown to make sure we get the better deal right now, they're in the business. Watch'em close, but let'em work.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| It is Padre island no north,south or upper. |
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