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outdooraggie
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 Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: No live shrimp for 2 months!? |
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Has anyone else heard this? TPWD is closing down the shrimping along the Texas coast from May 15th-July 15th this year. I didn't realize there was a shortage.... either way, I think it will have it's pro's and con's.
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Tyler
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I think they are referring to the Gulf. |
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putawaywet
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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"I think they are referring to the Gulf."
I stink so too.
They've been doing it for years.
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outdooraggie
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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That's what I figured, but that will either cause a shortage in live shrimp, or a cost increase right?
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putawaywet
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| outdooraggie wrote: | | That's what I figured, but that will either cause a shortage in live shrimp, or a cost increase right? |
I think the majority of bait shrimp come from bay shrimping.
I rarely have trouble finding some during summer.
Funny, I'll be in Port A. on the 15th.
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RodBreaker
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| outdooraggie wrote: | | That's what I figured, but that will either cause a shortage in live shrimp, or a cost increase right? |
No your live shrimp for bait comes from the bays. Also TPWD does the offshore closure in conjunction with the federal closure during the same time period. It is done so the shrimp can reach a marketable size.
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outdooraggie
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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oh ok. thanks guys.
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ArtificialB8
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Happens every year......
News Release
Media Contact: Aaron Reed, 512-389-8046, aaron.reed@tpwd.state.tx.us
May 6, 2009
Gulf Shrimp Season to Close May 15
AUSTIN, Texas — The Gulf of Mexico commercial shrimp season for both state and federal waters will close 30 minutes after sunset Friday, May 15, until an unspecified time in July.
The closing date is based on samples collected by the Coastal Fisheries Division of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department using trawl, bag seine and other information gathered from the shrimping industry.
Data regarding TPWD brown shrimp bag seine catch rates, mean lengths of shrimp in April 2008, percent of samples containing shrimp, and periods of maximum nocturnal ebb tidal flow indicate a May 15 closing date is appropriate. Typically, once the shrimp reach about 3 ½ inches long, they begin their migration back to the Gulf of Mexico.
"The closure is designed to allow these small shrimp to grow to a larger more valuable size before they are vulnerable to harvest," said Robin Riechers, TPWD Coastal Fisheries Division science and policy director. "The goal is to achieve optimum benefits for the shrimping industry while providing proper management to protect the shrimp."
The Texas closure applies to Gulf waters from the coast out to nine nautical miles. The National Marine Fisheries Service has announced federal waters out to 200 nautical miles also will be closed to conform to the Texas closure.
While the statutory opening date for the Gulf season is July 15, the Coastal Fisheries Division will be sampling shrimp populations to determine the optimum opening date for both the shrimp and the shrimpers. No announcement will be made concerning the re-opening until June data are collected. |
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Rudy
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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In case most of you all don't know, and you probably dont the shrimp closure is due to non other than the Kemp Ridley Sea Turtle and the program on PINS..
Here is an excerpt from a PDF file from February 2007 by non other than Donna Shaver and Cynthia Rubio
| Quote: | Most of these dead adults were
found during times when Gulf waters were open to
shrimp trawling. In an attempt to decrease mortality of
adult Kemp’s ridleys in south Texas waters, several environmental
groups and biologists suggested the creation
of a marine reserve or an area closed to commercial
fishing (Plotkin 1999, McDaniel et al. 2000). The
TPWD regulation developed using data from the present
study had the dual purpose of preventing overfishing
in the shrimping industry in Texas and protecting
adult Kemp’s ridley turtles in south Texas waters.
This regulation established a new annual closure of
Gulf waters to shrimp trawling off North Padre Island,
South Padre Island, and Boca Chica Beach out to 8 km
from shore, from 1 December through mid-May each
year, preceding the existing annual Texas Closure
which typically extends from mid-May through mid-
July. This regulation went into effect on 1 December
2000 and has helped protect adult Kemp’s ridley turtles
in south Texas (Lewison et al. 2003). |
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jebsays
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Rudy wrote: | In case most of you all don't know, and you probably dont the shrimp closure is due to non other than the Kemp Ridley Sea Turtle and the program on PINS..
Here is an excerpt from a PDF file from February 2007 by non other than Donna Shaver and Cynthia Rubio
| Quote: | Most of these dead adults were
found during times when Gulf waters were open to
shrimp trawling. In an attempt to decrease mortality of
adult Kemp’s ridleys in south Texas waters, several environmental
groups and biologists suggested the creation
of a marine reserve or an area closed to commercial
fishing (Plotkin 1999, McDaniel et al. 2000). The
TPWD regulation developed using data from the present
study had the dual purpose of preventing overfishing
in the shrimping industry in Texas and protecting
adult Kemp’s ridley turtles in south Texas waters.
This regulation established a new annual closure of
Gulf waters to shrimp trawling off North Padre Island,
South Padre Island, and Boca Chica Beach out to 8 km
from shore, from 1 December through mid-May each
year, preceding the existing annual Texas Closure
which typically extends from mid-May through mid-
July. This regulation went into effect on 1 December
2000 and has helped protect adult Kemp’s ridley turtles
in south Texas (Lewison et al. 2003). |
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Your excerpt references a different time-period than the closure in question.
| Quote: | This regulation established a new annual closure of
Gulf waters to shrimp trawling off North Padre Island,
South Padre Island, and Boca Chica Beach out to 8 km
from shore, from 1 December through mid-May each
year, preceding the existing annual Texas Closure
which typically extends from mid-May through mid-
July. |
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Rudy
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, perhaps I should post the clearer version from the document I have dated January 2008
Erin E. Seney1, 2,*, André M. Landry Jr.1
1Sea Turtle & Fisheries Ecology Research Laboratory, Department of Marine Biology, Texas A&M University at Galveston,
5007 Avenue U, Galveston, Texas 77551, USA
2NOAA Fisheries Sea Turtle Facility, NOAA Fisheries Service, US Department of Commerce, 4700 Avenue U,
Galveston, Texas 77551, USA
| Quote: | TPWD
also maintains the state park system and constituent
beaches (31 TAC 59) and oversees commercial and
recreational fishing activities in state waters, which
extend 9 nautical miles offshore of the Texas coast (31
TAC 57-58, 5 TPWC 46-47, 66). In addition to permitting
research and recovery activities in Texas, TPWD’s
primary role with regard to sea turtles is that of
in-water enforcement (M. Ray pers. comm.). All
shrimpers must comply with state and federal TED
regulations and with shrimp fishery closures, which
occur annually along the upper Texas coast from
15 May to 15 July and along the lower and middle
Texas coast from 1 December to 15 July (TPWD 2006). |
Obviously the Kemp Ridley program has a huge bearing on this. You can not even begin to understand the enormous effect the poor Kemp Ridley has had on the Gulf Coast. The financial implications are enormous. First consider the cost of the program especially in a remote area with numerous private, federal and international organizations over a course of many years. Then theres the legislation, manpower and everything that goes with it. Then of course consider the Texas shrimp fleet which has been grossly dessimated, most of the shrimp I eat these days comes from a farm south of the border somewhere. Now with the reduced speed limit on PINS hundreds of users will alter their use of the island which is what 'they' want...NO HUMANS, NO VEHICLES. Just imagine as you add it up how much money the people of Corpus Christi, Flour Bluff and The Island will be losing out on. Decreased tourism, empty motel rooms, bait shops selling less, restaurants with less customers...it just keeps going and going. Think about it.
This is your dose of government transparency from me to you today....and theres more, lots more. |
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Rudy
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I may as well let the upper coast peeps know that this is coming their way also. NO JOKE FOLKS, ITS ALL ABOUT THE KEMP'S RIDLEY
From the same document...
| Quote: | Documentation of nesting activity on the upper
Texas coast also provided evidence that Kemp’s ridleys
nest along the upper Texas coast and establish fidelity
to constituent habitats during some or all phases of the
nesting season. This nesting activity, like that seen in
preliminary trends in south Texas (Shaver & Caillouet
1998), is likely to increase with this species’ ongoing
recovery. This increase will result in more mature
females utilizing upper Texas coast waters and
beaches where they lack the levels of protection currently
afforded them along the middle and lower coast,
including the extended nearshore shrimp closure and
protected beaches along PINS.
The need for mitigation measures, such as regulations
affording increased protection to sea turtles along
upper Texas beaches and coastal waters, should be
examined and considered by state and federal managers
in order to reduce threats to the increasing number
of nesting Kemp’s ridleys in the region and their
progeny. Such measures will help to (1) ensure the
realization of any latent nesting potential along the
upper Texas coast, (2) increase researchers’ and regulatory
personnel’s ability to assess this nesting activity
and the importance of constituent beaches to ridley
recovery, (3) develop management strategies that
incorporate upper Texas coast beaches and adjacent
waters, (4) maintain and enhance the integrity of nesting
habitat and adjacent waters, and (5) increase the
potential for educational outreach and responsible
ecotourism on upper Texas coast beaches. |
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DBE1982
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Keeping quiet here
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Rudy
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| You're the one crying and getting defensive. We all enjoy the outdoors but take a look at who is doing the taking. You're the one who didn't get exactly what you wanted when you read the above facts. its nothing new, so why don't you give it a shot again and click on the reports and quit crying about people in the know. |
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crab_n_fisher
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: gotta love it! |
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I sincerely appreciate the decorum on this forum, in regards to NOT making a PETA-like slandering of conservation ethics, nor those remaining idly by deluged with the retorts, that all fisherman will rob the oceans, to make Momma happy this Mothers' Day!*....Objectivity is the key! It was why I had a brief fling with certain, "remember our cause in your will, support hardhead revival, for our grandchildren," causes -- all for belligerant, chest beating bravado, netted and hooked for a cover story that never ends, as inked in the world of the liberal press.
In case some off-the-wall-post comes up, in regards to having this thread locked......
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