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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Possible Lead Ban in National Parks Reply with quote

Contact Your Federal Legislators to Stop Ban on Lead in National Parks


Sportsmen nationwide must immediately contact their U.S. representatives and senators.

Ask your congressman and two U.S. senators to urge the Obama Administration to stop the National Park Service from its plan to stop the use lead ammunition and fishing tackle on its lands.

The park service, which administers many lands that permit hunting and fishing, including National Preserves, National Recreation Areas and National Rivers, announced March 10 that it would ban lead ammunition and sinkers from its lands.

Acting NPS Director Dan Wenk stated that the NPS goal is to eliminate all lead in ammunition and tackle by the end of 2010.

Over 20 million acres of NPS land is open to hunting and would be adversely impacted by this decision.

This decision is seen as a blatant anti-hunting move. It is clearly designed to limit hunting by imposing high priced alternative products like tungsten, copper, and steel.

It will reduce available conservation dollars as sportsmen reduce purchases of hunting and angling gear.

Take Action! Sportsmen are urged to contact their congressperson and their senators and tell them to ask the Obama Administration to oppose this measure. Tell them banning lead will destroy both part of America’s heritage and reduce conservation dollars.

To find your Representative’s phone number use the Legislative Action Center.

For more information regarding the U.S. Sportsmen’s Alert Network, call 614-888-4868, or email Greg R. Lawson, director of communications at glawson@ussportsmen.org or Sharon Hayden, assistant director of communications data at shayden@ussportsmen.org.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is some poo poo right here.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you serious???? Now we wont be able to use wieghts or lead jig heads??? I didnt vote for change thats for dang sure!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little here a little there soon no fishing at all, whats next
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladyfish wrote:
A little here a little there soon no fishing at all, whats next


After conversations I've had with policians at both state and federal levels
over the past 2 weeks it seems you are not far from wrong it seems the Department of Interior has some new ideas for us all. You just thought the parks belonged to the people...HA HA HA..

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, that means you have to have a lead-free tackle box now when traversing national water that extends into the ULM? Rangers will make you reel in your lines to check your terminal tackle?

Wow.


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ladyfish wrote:
A little here a little there soon no fishing at all, whats next


After conversations I've had with policians at both state and federal levels
over the past 2 weeks it seems you are not far from wrong it seems the Department of Interior has some new ideas for us all. You just thought the parks belonged to the people...HA HA HA..

Mike


Mike, what did you hear?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm obviously going against the flow here, but isn't it better to ban lead than to no longer be able to eat the fish and game that you get... or to have fish and game populations depleted due to a poisoned environment?

Couldn't lead free weights and jig heads be made from inexpensive ceramics? I know nothing about hunting, nor about the price of lead bullets vs. other types, but how many bullets does one need to bring down a deer or elk? And with daily/seasonal bag limits, how many bullets are we talking about each year? If you could still use lead bullets at practiceshooting ranges, then I would think using more expensive bullets when hunting in the parks would not cost all that much more.

I wish that there was such a great outcry about the proposed pet coke power plant and the Chinese steel mill being proposed here. The air and water pollution from those two plants will probably quickly decimate any fish and game in the area or make them inedible due to high mercury content.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fishinglady wrote:
I'm obviously going against the flow here, but isn't it better to ban lead than to no longer be able to eat the fish and game that you get... or to have fish and game populations depleted due to a poisoned environment?


My understanding is that lead shot/sinkers is an environmental issue generally limited to certain bird species, not "poisoning" the environment and depletion of the fish and game populations. Your view seems to be an overstatement of the problem.

Anyway, this is why some states have outlawed sinkers below a certain weight. . .the little ones are the ones more likely to get ingested.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That plan is about as retarded as my skills w/ a bow. There's bigger contributing factors to the pollution where we hunt & fish than lost weights , jig heads & bullets & they should stop with the hidden agenda plans & start with the pull the head out of the rear plans.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Joe wrote:
That plan is about as retarded as my skills w/ a bow. There's bigger contributing factors to the pollution where we hunt & fish than lost weights , jig heads & bullets & they should stop with the hidden agenda plans & start with the pull the head out of the rear plans.


Yeah. Light cleaning up a beach after natural disasters... Are we still able to use rebar sinkers? Laughing Very Happy Laughing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't hunt water fowl so duck hunters may clear this up but didn't Texas ban lead shot if you hunt around any public water way? I think I saw something about steel shot being used now....

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably a good idea to ban the led fishing weights. Alternative metal weights might cost more but I think it's money well spent. You have led free gas, paint etc for a reason. We don't need to be feeding it to the fish we eat.

I don't think they have used led bullets for a long time. It screws up your barrel. Now the copper jacket led bullets might be a problem.They might be the only type of ammo you can get for some guns. How are they going to know if it is lead inside if it is a full copper jacket? I don't see banning led bullets being much of a problem. L
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never seen a fish with a 4 or 5 oz sinker in it stomach....Shoot I never have caught a fish with just a sinker...

With Tungsten bullet weights selling for $6.00 an ounce... Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: lead shot Reply with quote

Yes non toxic shot when hunting on water/marsh. They can detect steel vs lead with a magnet, or metal detector. My question is where they would draw the line i.e. split shots or 10 oz. I wouldn't care if they banned split shot. I'd pay money to see a shorebird or duck try and eat a 1 oz weight. Jason Slocum
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This article jives with what I've read on the subject.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2188/do-lead-fishing-sinkers-threaten-the-environment
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