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[Gib]

Fishing is slow at night right now at BHP. Oh, you can catch your trout, but count your blessings if you get a limit. Current was screaming through the other night.

Look for night fishing to improve from new moon onward. - Live bait

It is being requested of us to arrive at a general agreement of rules and regulations at the pier with the main concerns being cast netting and rod limit. Everything else is pretty much majority agreed. Please understand that with any rules there will be some who agree and some who disagree.

I personally break categories down into:

1. Maintenance and cleanliness
2. Safety
3. Enforcement
4. Rules and regulations

Perhaps some of these could be combined.

1. Maintenance and cleanliness is going very well. If you see an issue in this area (lights, railings, etc.), call parks department at 949-8121 and inform them.

2. Safety – any fishing pier presents its own hazards of which the angler and visitor should be aware of, and there are things in place to aid in people’s safety such as railings, pick-up, improved lighting. Lighting will get better as they are working on to maximize lighting to fullest potential without having to rewire from transformer on. We can do our part by cleaning up after ourselves.

There have been some “run-ins”, but these have been primarily directed at the staff in the restaurant. This is still not right, and encourage them when they do their job as they are right now. Understand that they are now attempting to enforce some of the regulations that have been ignored for years – a monumental task indeed.

3. Enforcement – in my humble opinion, this is the area that needs the most work. Mr. Cazalas and the park board are now very aware of the dangers and are working on a solution.

4. Rules and regulations – this is the item that needs to be addressed as previously indicated. I am in the process of attempting to conjure any ideas on how to best objectively handle this scenario. Not everyone who uses the pier has a computer and if they do, not all read this website- shame on them, but I will save that for another day. There are enough concerned users of the pier that are willing to do whatever necessary.

Your ideas are needed and much appreciated.

One that I am toying with: create a questionnaire that primarily deals with cast netting and rod limit asking people to indicate preference along with contact information such as name and address, name and email, or something signifying that questionnaires are not artificially manipulated. Allow several weeks for input to be gathered, tally results, and submit to board.

You may be thinking that we have already done this. Yes, you would be correct, but I believe the issue has reached more people now. In addition, the pier is about to slow way down. It would be a good time to gather such information, submit to board, implement changes (if any) during cold months, announce through as many avenues of communication (computer, signs, etc.), and be ready for next Spring.

Maybe something along lines of:

1. Allow cast nets on pier? Yes or No
I do not believe we will get any regulation if trying to implement a distance one must be from other anglers.

2. How many rods?

Note: I would like to add the idea of an annual pass for regular users. Fee would include one person and maximum number of rods allowed per person. Anyone else visiting with annual pass holder must pay for entrance and any rods exceeding annual pass limits or purchase an annual pass for self. Fee would obviously need to be reasonable and cover the costs of making such passes. Also, decision would have to be made where to purchase and receive pass.

3. Would you purchase an annual pass? Yes or No

Again, this is just an idea and probably needs to be refined to be more concise. Perhaps, through computer, word of mouth, distribution of questionnaire at entrance, etc. Please note that I have not asked Mike if he would be willing to distribute such if given supplies. Several of us can also walk the pier for a week or two gathering results.

Need you ideas, much appreciated!!

[ladyfish]

GIB would be glad to help,I can talk to a lot of fishermen during the day, and get there input on your survey, let me know when you are ready

[Gib]

Ladyfish,

I was counting you as one of the ones willing to help.

When ready, it would be good if you could walk the pier during the times you are out there and get people to quickly look over and then check what they would like.

I am currently waiting for any input and formulating something tht I hope works for everybody to use.

[surfdragon]

I HAVENT BEEN TO BOB HALL in about a month,Do they still have the same lights out there. In my opinion they could do better with bigger lights. If they have been changed disregard.
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[Gib]

Surfdragon,

They are upgrading all the tall, pole lights to the maximum wattage possible without rewiring entire system all the way back to transformer.

I do not recall the exact numbers, but I do know that it will double the current wattage.

[rabbit]

Most of the rules are fine by me. Except should only have 2 poles and no cast nets.
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[Fishbrains]

As an out of towner I really like to see you locals doing something about bob hall. I've fished it on occasion & was always concerned about thieves in the parking lot. I'd like to see more lights out there as well as on the pier. I'd vote no castnetting on the pier as those who want live bait can either buy it or castnet out on the beach. 2 rod limit & pay extra on each one after that up to 4 per person.

Fb

my 2 cents

[CastnBlast]

3 Rod Limit

Castnets - YES. Charge $1.00, just like the rods.

We don't need to restrict castnets just because the 1% of Jerks that don't respect other's "space".

I'd be glad to help in anyway possible too. I work in the bluff, and can take some extended "lunch" breaks to visit as well. Unfortunately, I have not had much time to fish it this year at all...only been out a handfull of times. But I really enjoy getting out there.
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[FB PHIL]

Things have seemed to get better lately, such as cleaner restrooms withouth water running all over the floors, pier is cleaner(but the fish aren't biting to get the crowds like usual), and is much less hectic since school is back in session. The main thing I have heard from several fisher-folks is, they don't want the pier fees to go up from what they are right now. I'm with them on that one.

[Howie]

We vote .....two pole limit and no cast nets and a big yes on a annual pass.
At the Sunday grand opening we did not stay after seeing the amount of trash, shrimp heads, dead bait and sea grass all over the deck.
We did duck when two people overhead cast as we walked by.
Free beer and $3 fajita or not the restaurant was not very appetizing so we just left.
Hope you guys get it worked out. Common sense and respect for others seams to be dead now days.
Howard

[SandJKENNELS]

4 rods per person limit and yes to castnets. Charge $2.00 for the nets and anybody caught with more then 4 poles without their "help" being their at all times or within 5 mins or so charge $5.00 a pole for the extra poles they have there.

Yes to annual pass.
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[Gib]

Okay guys and gals,

First part of next week I hope to develop some type of survey in print form and on the internet to reach as many as possible.

We have the established current regulations with many of you already voicing yea or nay towards them. We need volunteers to help collect the information on the survey, tally results, present to park board. Some of you have already volunteered and don't worry, I have you down.

Everyone interested will be asked again some of the same things already requested. Please bear with me as I do not want to mix old with new.

I may not have made myself clear through my bad communication, but I am currently seeking any advice towards creating as objective survey as possible. For example: yes/no survey only; multiple choice; combination; or something else. I do not object to a suggestion section, but I would like to keep it limited if it becomes too large.

The purpose for this survey is to give the board some direction towards future decisions and/or changes to current rules.

Something else to think about: Whatever the rod limit becomes of staying the same or changing, somehow indicate that if 5 people arrive with 3 poles each that any one person of the group leaving then poles must be brought in. Trying to avoid a loop hole here. In other words, 3 poles for each person PERIOD!! If more poles than people, then some have to come in. I use 3 rods because that is current regualtion. I know this will present difficulty as the scenerios are presented like bathroom trips, restraunt etc. Okay, but bring your line in.

One can scenerio and hypothetical any situation in attempts to affect change. For example: 6 rod limit because I slide line 3 poles and need 3 anchor poles - I use only 2 or 3 cement blocks on the pier - I adjust slide lines at different lengths to accomodate; therefore, I should be allowed 6 rods.

Again, the park board is very agreeable and willing to work with us. Hopefully we can work together lest we become a cess pool of whiners and complainers and they say forget it. I do not believe we are at this point nor close to it.

Some have been a little hard on the Trash Heap due to being a part yet not using the pier. He has now volunteered to walk the pier for free cleaning up other people's mess. It seems all good to me on both sides of issue. I am gratefull for his encouragement at the beginning and contact information. I honestly believe we would still be in the dug out or side lines had I not received such information. Mr. Cazales got the ball rolling, and now Mr. Sikes has put it in print for many people to read. Thank the Trash Heap for the success.

Let's keep up the good work seeking the common good for all to enjoy a friendly, safe, and wonderful atmosphere at BHP.

Side note: if anyone is looking for somethig to do; solicit restaurant to offer a fishermen's special or something. A hamburger, fry, and drink currently runs you $10.00 or slightly more.

[surfdragon]

Thanks for the reply gib and good job well done.Thanks for getting involved.
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[Fishmeister]

Gib,

I would like to see the rod limit change also. I am a landlocked king fisherman and use slid rigs to catch my kings (which requires two (2) rods). Personally I don't think that the anchor rod should caught since it doesn't have a hook on it. Or you could specify that a rod is counted as a rod if it has a bait hook (for catching fish) on it.

Not worth the effort to fish BHP with just one king rig.

[rabbit]