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Vern Horse Mullet

Joined: 11 Sep 2017 Posts: 243 Location: Texas dry land
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:22 pm Post subject: How much trouble |
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Not that anyone here really knows me personally but FYI, I have never been one to knowing break the law or rules intentionally even if I disagree with them.
I have seen the casting cannons all over the place, youtube etc DIY etc.
I go DOWN PINS at least 5-30 miles.
I am old (yes relevant only 60 but) and disabled getting more all the time.
ANYWAY
I know that the bait cannons are "not allowed" on PINS....hmmm not allowed vs Ilegal? Thought about the drone thing but between cost and getting picked up on the Naval radar.....
Maybe a Becky Question:
How much trouble do you think I might get into If I got caught IN POSSESSION of one or worse USING one?
I dont like the idea of frozen bait but I think I have figured out that part. Was thinking of the old potato gun,light it and shoot it, IE smaller more compact no compressed air issues.
What say you. I dont like breaking rules and certainly not laws but I cant handle a kayak since I cant breathe or breathe to swim if I was over turned. Lung issues. _________________ Whatever your hands find to do, do it with all your might. (Fishing is one of those things ) |
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Rxfire Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 16 Apr 2016 Posts: 622 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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how does your wife swim?
Hey, a radio controlled kayak is not a Unmanned Aviation System (UAS/Drone)... |
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seasonalsalt Finger Mullet

Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Granbury
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Texas Penal Code Chapter 46
(2) "Explosive weapon" means any explosive or incendiary bomb, grenade, rocket, or mine, that is designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting serious bodily injury, death, or substantial property damage, or for the principal purpose of causing such a loud report as to cause undue public alarm or terror, and includes a device designed, made, or adapted for delivery or shooting an explosive weapon.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, or sells:
(1) any of the following items, unless the item is registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record maintained by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives or otherwise not subject to that registration requirement or unless the item is classified as a curio or relic by the United States Department of Justice:
(A) an explosive weapon;
(B) a machine gun; or
(C) a short-barrel firearm;
(2) knuckles;
(3) armor-piercing ammunition;
(4) a chemical dispensing device;
(5) a zip gun;
(6) a tire deflation device; or
(7) a firearm silencer, unless the firearm silencer is classified as a curio or relic by the United States Department of Justice or the actor otherwise possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, or sells the firearm silencer in compliance with federal law.
(e) An offense under Subsection (a)(1), (3), (4), (5), or (7) is a felony of the third degree. An offense under Subsection (a)(6) is a state jail felony. An offense under Subsection (a)(2) is a Class A misdemeanor. _________________ seasonalsalt |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:08 am Post subject: |
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That's an easy law to skirt around. Make it air powered, therefore no combustion. That's why you can have full auto airsoft/bb/paintball guns and still be in compliance with the law. There are air powered guns of all sorts that because they dont cause combustion, are not subject to regular firearm regulations. _________________ Great captains, the stuff of legend, are made not by what they have caught, but by what they have given back. |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Also, if you're freezing bait, it thaws a bit, and you try launching into the wind, you will spray bloody fish juice all over yourself. Just a word of caution.  _________________ Great captains, the stuff of legend, are made not by what they have caught, but by what they have given back. |
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Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:49 am Post subject: Re: How much trouble |
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| Vern wrote: | How much trouble do you think I might get into If I got caught IN POSSESSION of one or worse USING one?
I dont like the idea of frozen bait but I think I have figured out that part. Was thinking of the old potato gun,light it and shoot it, IE smaller more compact no compressed air issues.
What say you. I dont like breaking rules and certainly not laws but I cant handle a kayak since I cant breathe or breathe to swim if I was over turned. Lung issues. |
I don't know, that's a good question....depends on the ranger I suppose...if you build one, try it in the yard or at a park first to see how it goes...
| hickroots07 wrote: | Also, if you're freezing bait, it thaws a bit, and you try launching into the wind, you will spray bloody fish juice all over yourself. Just a word of caution.  |
Bahahahahahaha!!!! sounds like experience talking there!
becky _________________
| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Thanks for the Memories, Ranger Rick. |
| ziacatcher wrote: | | However I bet if you were fishing naked Ranger Rick would have a problem with that |
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3583 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| hickroots07 wrote: | you will spray bloody fish juice all over yourself. Just a word of caution.  |
LOL Indeed! It ought to have ended with "Ask me how I know"!!!  |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | hickroots07 wrote: | you will spray bloody fish juice all over yourself. Just a word of caution.  |
LOL Indeed! It ought to have ended with "Ask me how I know"!!!  |
I wish that had an awesome "I launched a bait 300 yards into the wind" story to go with it, but that's not the case. I was the innocent bystander. I was on the fish pass jetties casting out the conventional way and a guy walks up with a bait cannon. I was really impressed thinking maybe I've been doing it wrong for so long. They loaded a frozen bonita bomb inside and let her fly. Not the best distance, but still pretty cool. So the guy hustles back off the jetty to their truck, reloads this contraption with an air compressor for the next shot, and back out to the end if the jetty. Well at this time I was pretty curious so went up to see how it worked. I noticed the bait was thawing, I assume just from the time it took him to reload, and at the same time thought that might be a good idea to get the weight to stick. It was a good idea til he fired it off spraying bloody bonita chunks into the 20mph winds and then back all over us. (Side note: I'm telling my coworker this story and he cuts me off right here saying, "Bloody Bonita?!?! I think i dated her in high school lol) In our eyes, mouths, faces, just disgusting. I had seen enough at that point to satisfy my curiosity and to make me never consider doing that ever again. They kept launching the baits, blood spray and all, reloading back at the truck after each shot for the next few hours. I'm sure that smell didnt just rinse right off. Theres the story, or at least how I remember it. I cant say I recommend the cannon but gotta give them the A for effort, not easy running back and forth off the jetty so many times. _________________ Great captains, the stuff of legend, are made not by what they have caught, but by what they have given back. |
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Vern Horse Mullet

Joined: 11 Sep 2017 Posts: 243 Location: Texas dry land
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Well thanks folks I guess Ill stick to the old fashioned way.
My wife cant swim so that lets her out. _________________ Whatever your hands find to do, do it with all your might. (Fishing is one of those things ) |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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You can give it a whirl. If you dont have to lug a compressor around, can do it from your vehicle, and have a way to keep the bait from spraying all over it could probably be done. You could maybe look at a CO2 can launcher, similar to a shirt launcher at sporting events. That's lots more compact, and fairly cheap to operate. _________________ Great captains, the stuff of legend, are made not by what they have caught, but by what they have given back. |
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3583 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Bravo hickroots07 - Great Story!!  |
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parttime Horse Mullet
Joined: 10 Aug 2016 Posts: 113 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:58 am Post subject: |
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This is from PINS' website:
Question: Am I allowed to use a compressed gas powered bait launcher within Padre Island National Seashore?
Answer: According to 36 Code of Federal Regulations, such a device is considered a weapon. Federal regulations limit the use of weapons in the National Seashore. The use of a weapon within the Seashore is prohibited unless the time and location of its use is specifically designated. Pending such designation by the park Superintendent, the use of these devices is prohibited.
Question: Can an exception be made for someone with a disability which prevents their ability to cast?
Answer: The use of a weapon to aide in casting due to a disability is prohibited. People frequently surf fish at the National Seashore without distance casting;many use short rods and fish between the first and second sandbar and/or the second and third sandbar. There are also local options that negate the need to distance cast at Bob Hall Pier at Padre Balli Park, Packery Channel (North and South Jetties), and many places along the Laguna Madre. _________________ Parttime fishing, parttime wishing...
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bd0202 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 11 May 2017 Posts: 698 Location: SATX
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| hickroots07 wrote: | | Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | hickroots07 wrote: | you will spray bloody fish juice all over yourself. Just a word of caution.  |
LOL Indeed! It ought to have ended with "Ask me how I know"!!!  |
I wish that had an awesome "I launched a bait 300 yards into the wind" story to go with it, but that's not the case. I was the innocent bystander. I was on the fish pass jetties casting out the conventional way and a guy walks up with a bait cannon. I was really impressed thinking maybe I've been doing it wrong for so long. They loaded a frozen bonita bomb inside and let her fly. Not the best distance, but still pretty cool. So the guy hustles back off the jetty to their truck, reloads this contraption with an air compressor for the next shot, and back out to the end if the jetty. Well at this time I was pretty curious so went up to see how it worked. I noticed the bait was thawing, I assume just from the time it took him to reload, and at the same time thought that might be a good idea to get the weight to stick. It was a good idea til he fired it off spraying bloody bonita chunks into the 20mph winds and then back all over us. (Side note: I'm telling my coworker this story and he cuts me off right here saying, "Bloody Bonita?!?! I think i dated her in high school lol) In our eyes, mouths, faces, just disgusting. I had seen enough at that point to satisfy my curiosity and to make me never consider doing that ever again. They kept launching the baits, blood spray and all, reloading back at the truck after each shot for the next few hours. I'm sure that smell didnt just rinse right off. Theres the story, or at least how I remember it. I cant say I recommend the cannon but gotta give them the A for effort, not easy running back and forth off the jetty so many times. |
I was thinking this was one of those stories that began with "hold my beer".  _________________ All things will pass. Have a Blessed day. |
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