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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:26 am    Post subject: More on cholesterol and vitamin D Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks my wife keeps telling me statins are going to kill me. I take the generic Lipitor and have for about 25 years.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual, thanks Dave! Keep them coming.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure I buy all that, but I have been on statins and 5000iu d3 for years. All might want to consider coQ10 also if concerned about potential heart health. Read up on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler wrote:
Thanks my wife keeps telling me statins are going to kill me. I take the generic Lipitor and have for about 25 years.


Statins almost killed my dad about 20 years ago. His muscles got so sore and weak that he could barely stand up. All the protein passing thru his kidneys from his muscles wasting away almost shut them down! That drug was Baycal: https://www.impactlaw.com/dangerous-drugs/cholesterol-drugs

My uncle lives in Corpus. He had open heart surgery 20 years ago for many severe blockages. His cariologist put him on a statin, and I don't know what else he's on. He's never been even remotely overweight or inactve, but he changed his diet to a more "heart friendly" model and walks at least 10,000 steps a day, with lots of up and down the stairs at some mall down there. A couple of weeks ago my aunt (his wife) told my wife that he had a test done recently that showed an 80% blockage in one of his main arteries, I don't recall which one.

So, tell me how great statins are! Rolling Eyes

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/martha-rosenberg/statins_b_1818370.html

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2017/03/09/why-didnt-statins-protect-dad-from-clogged-coronary-arteries/
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Thanks my wife keeps telling me statins are going to kill me. I take the generic Lipitor and have for about 25 years.


Statins almost killed my dad about 20 years ago. His muscles got so sore and weak that he could barely stand up. All the protein passing thru his kidneys from his muscles wasting away almost shut them down! That drug was Baycal: https://www.impactlaw.com/dangerous-drugs/cholesterol-drugs

My uncle lives in Corpus. He had open heart surgery 20 years ago for many severe blockages. His cariologist put him on a statin, and I don't know what else he's on. He's never been even remotely overweight or inactve, but he changed his diet to a more "heart friendly" model and walks at least 10,000 steps a day, with lots of up and down the stairs at some mall down there. A couple of weeks ago my aunt (his wife) told my wife that he had a test done recently that showed an 80% blockage in one of his main arteries, I don't recall which one.

So, tell me how great statins are! Rolling Eyes

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/martha-rosenberg/statins_b_1818370.html

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2017/03/09/why-didnt-statins-protect-dad-from-clogged-coronary-arteries/


I think I'll get my medical advice from my Internist, not a wannabe citing articles from very questionable sources on the internet. Oh wait, I totally forgot - everything you read on the internet is true!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't shoot the messenger pal, nobody is forcing you to read, or do, anything!

In case you missed it, the first copy was written by an MD. He's just one of the very few who thinks naturally instead of pushing Big Pharma crap on his patients. Here's another: https://www.drbrownstein.com/do-we-need-more-cholesterol-lowering-medications/

As for truth and the internet, if someone lacks common sense, logic, reason and is too lazy or biased to research any subject and figure out for themselves what is the truth and what is BS, too bad for them. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
Don't shoot the messenger pal, nobody is forcing you to read, or do, anything!

In case you missed it, the first copy was written by an MD. He's just one of the very few who thinks naturally instead of pushing Big Pharma crap on his patients. Here's another: https://www.drbrownstein.com/do-we-need-more-cholesterol-lowering-medications/

As for truth and the internet, if someone lacks common sense, logic, reason and is too lazy or biased to research any subject and figure out for themselves what is the truth and what is BS, too bad for them. Wink


Yeah, I know, yada, yada, yada, everything I copy, print, or cite from the internet is God's truth. And, I know so much about medicine that I can deduce and inform you and everyone else which articles, etc.. are true and correct, and which are not.

I think the key to your comment is "He's just one of the very few". I'm sure there are very few, and for good reason. All the rest, of course, including my internist that I have known for over 30 years are stupid and have no common sense, and are being duped by "Big Pharma". But, your internet whacko and his conspiracy theories of medical practice are the truth.

Don't get me wrong, I don't deny that there is a "Big Pharma", just like there is a "Big Hollywood Entertainment political machine", a "Mainstream Media political Machine", and more. I don't trust any of them.

But give me a break for crying out loud!!! I will trust my internist's decisions 8 days a week before I will even listen to some internet quack who is one of the "very few". Anyone who is spouting conspiracy theories as a part of their medical decisions and practice are definitely not worth listening to in my book. If his alternatives are so good why does he have to attack "Big Pharma" to justify his medical proclamations. His alternatives should speak for themselves. Show me the facts Jack, without all the "Big Pharma" conspiracy theory crap in the middle of it. Unfortunately he can't do that, because "just the facts" won't support his opinions.

Oh Yeah: Almost forgot. Any cite to the Huffy Puffy Post rag is a dead give away that the article is absolutely and totally "fake" news!! I'd tear my eyes out before you could force me to read anything the HuffandPuff Post rag!!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are a real piece or work. I come on here with no other goal than to possibly help a few folks who may be non status quo, like me, and you call me a "wannabe". The only thing that you have been correct about so far is that I do indeed, wannabe helpful.

To that end, here's a little more reading:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trial-sans-error-how-pharma-funded-research-cherry-picks-positive-results/

How about another MD?:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/03/18/deception-statins-effectiveness.aspx

How about this, from the Oxford journal of Medicine. As you once quopped, "All you gotta do is read"! Wink
https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/95/6/397/1559536

I will respond no further to your insults, it's pointless. We are all entitled to believe what we choose, and as stated previously, I post these things for open minded people who think that there just may be something better than blind faith in what another tells them, no matter his or her level of education.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, I don't believe every whacko theory I read on the net, as you seem to.

And I'm still ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay no mind to rodnroll. I think he is in the hospital there at Kerrville.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pay no mind to rodnroll. I think he is in the hospital there at Kerrville.


Would be if I followed the whacko "alternate" medicine theories posted here. But, alas it appears that Thomas Carpenter is apparently an "alternate" medicine whacko also
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please keep ASSuming things about me. It
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeps me entertained!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThomasCarpenter wrote:
Keeps me entertained!


Well Tommie, you must have a terribly boring life if this keeps you entertained!

I'm out. I don't need to make Tyler mad by calling out interlopers who start off with personal attacks. Note that my first post was not an attack on anyone. Unfortunately due to the actions of others the postings devolved from there.
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