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Donnie Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1248 Location: Near pins
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:10 pm Post subject: Spare spool for my spinning reel |
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I have a penn spinfisher 4500, right now I have it spooled with 20 lb braid, and a 10 foot or so leader of 20lb test flourocarbon. I ordered a new spool for the 4500. Years back, I used to catch more trout in saltwater, and crappies, white bass and black bass in freshwater, than others , because I used 6 lb test line, no snaps, no swivels, minimum hardware, just knots to attach my lures. I want to reproduce that effect for when the water clears up - and trout, etc. are in the surf all the time, summer - fall.
Should I focus on flourocarbon leaders - and stick with braid on the spare spool - or - or go back to 6 lb or so monofilament . You dont get away with much in the surf - the fish know when a fisherman has spooled 6 lb test, and they line up - typically skipjacks, jackfish, blues, etc. - to take all his expensive lures.
What would be a good balance between enough strength in the main line - and difficult to see for the fish, trout mostly - and what is the best for the bucks mono these days.
And if Flourocarbon is invisible to the fish, what is the argument , other than cost, of spooling the entire spool with it. _________________ Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy. |
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ziacatcher Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 6562 Location: The Bluff
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll answer one of your questions. 20-pound braid is a lot thinner than 20 lb fluorocarbon so therefore you can have a lot more on your reel |
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DMAC Horse Mullet

Joined: 04 Feb 2016 Posts: 179 Location: flour bluff
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Have also been using 20lb. braid with 20lb. fluoro leader on spinning reels for quite awhile. Recently spooled one with Berkley Nanofil, kind of a fused braid hybrid, made especially for spinning reels. Haven't used it a lot, but I think I like it. Would think fluoro would be a bit stiff to spool a spinning reel with. 6lb mono just seems too light to me. Certainly wouldn't want to see that big trout shaking it's head sawing on it. A fellow I fish with does use 10lb mono with a fluoro leader, and does well with it. Takes him a while to get a big fish in. On the fluoro leader subject: A guy that dives told me he took a piece of fluoro and mono down and the visibility to him was the same underwater. Also watched a test online that showed the fluoro 'leader' material wasn't any more abrasion resistant than regular fluoro line, but it costs a lot more. Good luck. D |
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BayFly Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1728 Location: Austin/Flour Bluff
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| DMAC wrote: | | Have also been using 20lb. braid with 20lb. fluoro leader on spinning reels for quite awhile. Recently spooled one with Berkley Nanofil, kind of a fused braid hybrid, made especially for spinning reels. Haven't used it a lot, but I think I like it. Would think fluoro would be a bit stiff to spool a spinning reel with. 6lb mono just seems too light to me. Certainly wouldn't want to see that big trout shaking it's head sawing on it. A fellow I fish with does use 10lb mono with a fluoro leader, and does well with it. Takes him a while to get a big fish in. On the fluoro leader subject: A guy that dives told me he took a piece of fluoro and mono down and the visibility to him was the same underwater. Also watched a test online that showed the fluoro 'leader' material wasn't any more abrasion resistant than regular fluoro line, but it costs a lot more. Good luck. D |
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Donnie Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1248 Location: Near pins
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| BayFly wrote: |
^ It's been said it depends on what you have confidence in.  |
Good point - so probably back to 6 lb test for that spare spool. _________________ Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy. |
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ziacatcher Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 6562 Location: The Bluff
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey Donnie I see where you use about 10 feet of fluoro at the end of your braids. I only use about 18 in. |
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Donnie Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ziacatcher wrote: | | Hey Donnie I see where you use about 10 feet of fluoro at the end of your braids. I only use about 18 in. |
Even when you are throwing lures ? I would think that on clear water days in the surf - or out in laguna madre area, you would need more than 18 inches - that the fish could see the braid - yet you are more than successful in both places. I gotta think about this. And I dont remember why I was using 10 feet , probably heard someone mention doing that.
Donnie _________________ Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy. |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with Zia on this. I usually have 12 to 18 inches of mono leader and if i dont get broken off I use the same leader til is about 4 inches long. Have noticed minimal if any change in the bite between the short and long. Never used anything longer than that except on shark / redfish casting leaders in the surf. _________________ Great captains, the stuff of legend, are made not by what they have caught, but by what they have given back. |
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Donnie Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| hickroots07 wrote: | | I'm with Zia on this. I usually have 12 to 18 inches of mono leader and if i dont get broken off I use the same leader til is about 4 inches long. Have noticed minimal if any change in the bite between the short and long. Never used anything longer than that except on shark / redfish casting leaders in the surf. |
Hard to argue with you guys' success - I will use mine down from the length it is now to nada, and follow yalls lead on the couple that need to be re spooled. _________________ Don - permanent prescription of salt water therapy. |
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