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Is fishing better further down PINS?
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gkrane
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:34 pm    Post subject: Is fishing better further down PINS? Reply with quote

I usually stay within the first couple of miles because I have a Honda CRV and dont want to get into a jam with the sand. What are the differences when you go further down the beach?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Is fishing better further down PINS? Reply with quote

gkrane wrote:
I usually stay within the first couple of miles because I have a Honda CRV and dont want to get into a jam with the sand. What are the differences when you go further down the beach?


that's a loaded question....the short answer: sometimes...

while there can be more structure down the beach, sometimes the fish are on the north end....fish swim and move around, come to find out...

for example, last weekend some of us were at the jetty...while the water was pretty, fishing was slow...I fished my way off the beach, hitting the 50's, 40's etc.. all the way off...finally ran into Nick in the teens, and he had gotten a few fish, and I got a few as well...

then, on Monday, I see reports that the pomp were around Bob Haul in good numbers, and that's where they've been most of the week Crying or Very sad

farther south doesn't automatically equal more fish....
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thnaks Becky that helps alot. I have never driven down there so I didn't have any clue what it is like. What type of structure is down there? Are there like points and things? I always hear shark only fisherman talking about big shell.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gkrane wrote:
Thnaks Becky that helps alot. I have never driven down there so I didn't have any clue what it is like. .


I would go with someone with experience the first time...

gkrane wrote:
What type of structure is down there? Are there like points and things? .


yes, exactly...however, the same structure can be found north of fish pass jetties too, don't forget about that stretch

gkrane wrote:
I always hear shark only fisherman talking about big shell.


Big Shell is GONE....wiped off the map these days...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am guessing Harvey took big shell back into the gulf?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gkrane wrote:
I am guessing Harvey took big shell back into the gulf?


it's been changing for a few years....it hasn't been a single event...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't heard that about Big Shell. Interesting!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I haven't heard that about Big Shell. Interesting!


many of us think that the converging nearshore currents have changed their patterns....it's been interesting for sure to watch the changes over the past 10 years or so...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of my best days surf fishing have been north of the fish pass jetties. I have also been skunked more than a few times down PINS. Becky speaks true.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say the fishing is better...but I would feel confident saying the fish are bigger though and the chances of catching bigger fish are better due to deeper guts, and more pronounced washouts in the bars. Hugely depends on what you are fishing for though...if you want reds and specks...I personally wouldn't bother driving past the teens but that's just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becky speaks the truth! Sometimes all the bait or clean water will be south but sometimes it is dirty all the way or only clean on the north end. You don't know unless you have great intel or just go down and find out!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler wrote:
Becky speaks the truth!


WAIT! What...???. Becky is a savant? Who Knew?!?!?!?! Laughing Laughing Laughing

Got a few horror stories on the recent THE red snapper Data Workshop to share, next time i see you....... It's "complicated".

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

USACE has not dredged Mansfield Channel since 2009. Prior to that it was dredged every two to three years with sediment being placed on the beach north of the jetties.This has caused rapid erosion of the island south of the 45mm and has changed deposition at Big Shell. The park is working with USACE and Port Mansfield to get dredging resumed. Look on Google earth and you can see the sediment piled up against the South jetty. Sediment carried North by the Yucatan current is pushed out into the Gulf as tides fall or sucked into the channel as the tide rises. Nothing makes it past the jetties and the North jetty will soon be under cut.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardScience wrote:
USACE has not dredged Mansfield Channel since 2009. Prior to that it was dredged every two to three years with sediment being placed on the beach north of the jetties.This has caused rapid erosion of the island south of the 45mm and has changed deposition at Big Shell. The park is working with USACE and Port Mansfield to get dredging resumed. Look on Google earth and you can see the sediment piled up against the South jetty. Sediment carried North by the Yucatan current is pushed out into the Gulf as tides fall or sucked into the channel as the tide rises. Nothing makes it past the jetties and the North jetty will soon be under cut.


The EPA auctioned off all the dredging equipment. (They did the same along the Rio Grande.)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardScience wrote:
The park is working with USACE and Port Mansfield to get dredging resumed.


YAY!!!!!!! great news!!!!!!

HardScience wrote:
Nothing makes it past the jetties and the North jetty will soon be under cut.


that is 100% true, and there will be costly damage unless dredging or bypass pumping occurs soon...please let us know if we can help by writing letters, etc....
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