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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3585 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Bay Grinder wrote: | | ...And when we reach the threshold and have truly overfished, did we all get our fair share? |
Ask THE red snapper fisherman, and you shall have your answer. |
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speckled.trout Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Posts: 1190
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| Central Scrutinizer wrote: | | Bay Grinder wrote: | | ...And when we reach the threshold and have truly overfished, did we all get our fair share? |
Ask THE red snapper fisherman, and you shall have your answer. |
Yep
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Shalor Horse Mullet
Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 180
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think cutting the limit to 5 trout will hurt tourism to CC at all. In fact with Schlitterbahn coming I think tourism and fishing pressure is about to get heavier. I think this is a great move to protect the trout fishery. The guys down in Port Mansfield say there are more people fishing down there now than before limit change. |
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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 1560
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| Shalor wrote: | | I don't think cutting the limit to 5 trout will hurt tourism to CC at all. In fact with Schlitterbahn coming I think tourism and fishing pressure is about to get heavier. I think this is a great move to protect the trout fishery. The guys down in Port Mansfield say there are more people fishing down there now than before limit change. |
yeah but now those guides in PM are complaining about all those new people fishing with croakers keeping "their" big fish.
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kweber Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 2399 Location: Hondo
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:37 am Post subject: |
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only as long as there's sound unbiased data proving a decline, otherwise leave it alone...
the best thing for coastal fisheries would be a good wet spell.
every creek and river at flood stage flushing the bay systems. _________________ the creepy uncle that scares the kids.... |
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Tyler Site Admin

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12865
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| kweber wrote: | only as long as there's sound unbiased data proving a decline, otherwise leave it alone...
the best thing for coastal fisheries would be a good wet spell.
every creek and river at flood stage flushing the bay systems. |
Amen. _________________ Like Corpusfishing.com on Facebook! |
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3585 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| kweber wrote: | | only as long as there's sound unbiased data proving a decline, otherwise leave it alone... |
This looks to be some pretty unbiased, fishery-independent, management data
| speckled.trout wrote: | Here is the slide shown to the commission on November 6th 2013
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So, my reading of the information points to no decline, and an end result of "leave it alone". |
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speckled.trout Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Let's make it a point to assure the tourist bureau in Aransas Pass, Rockport, Seadrift Matagorda and other cities that the Schlitterbahn that is coming to the Corpus Christi is going to increase their tourism and take care of the loss of revenue a reduction in trout limits could make as a lack of people coming to the coastal cities to fish. Or maybe how it is not going to help them.
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MECE Horse Mullet

Joined: 23 Aug 2013 Posts: 187 Location: Corpus Christi
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| deputydawg wrote: | | I don't have anything worthy to add to the discussion but I definately am reading this. I appreciate the info and others outlooks on it. |
I am with ya on this one DD, I have never caught a limit of trout. So far my stringer only sees two trout every time I go out, and I have never caught a keeper flounder. I think I need a smaller stringer!! Good to keep up with the info and staying informed, I am also one who appreciates all the info these experienced anglers have to share with us. |
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bluezbrother
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: Fillets |
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| It is my humble opinion that if you are only in the fishing trip for the fillets, you are far better off at the local grocery store. I personally fish for the thrill, enjoyment, and the passing of tradition from father to son. I understand that not all people see it from my angle, but fillets are a lot cheaper to come by at the fish market than the cost of a fishing trip. It is with this attitude that I can enjoy every trip, whether we fill the box or not. I'll buy my meat at the store, and save my fishing trip money for the memories that can never be erased or fried in the grease. It seems the populations are in good standing, but I don't mind a proactive approach to keep them that way for my grandkids. Just my .02 |
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speckled.trout Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. bluezbrother, I really don't think you need to worry about your grandchildren having trout to catch when that time comes. I think that the TP&W will never let it get to that point. I've been fishing the Laguna since the '50s which was during the commercial fishing days, three freezes over the years which killed millions of trout redfish and drum, brown tides, red tide (in the very upper Laguna) and droughts and we still have trout today. Being proactive is one thing, but there is still a balance that can be kept and I'll bet you even if the trout limits isn't lowered your grandchildren will have trout.
You really need to worry more about freezes on the Texas coast....a lot more devastation. I've seen it up close.
Have a good one
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Razorback Horse Mullet
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 128 Location: Up Chit Creek
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Fillets |
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| bluezbrother wrote: | | It is my humble opinion that if you are only in the fishing trip for the fillets, you are far better off at the local grocery store. I personally fish for the thrill, enjoyment, and the passing of tradition from father to son. I understand that not all people see it from my angle, but fillets are a lot cheaper to come by at the fish market than the cost of a fishing trip. It is with this attitude that I can enjoy every trip, whether we fill the box or not. I'll buy my meat at the store, and save my fishing trip money for the memories that can never be erased or fried in the grease. It seems the populations are in good standing, but I don't mind a proactive approach to keep them that way for my grandkids. Just my .02 |
Well said, sir.... |
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RPool Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 795 Location: San Antonio; Padre Island
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| speckled.trout wrote: | Mr. bluezbrother, I really don't think you need to worry about your grandchildren having trout to catch when that time comes. I think that the TP&W will never let it get to that point. I've been fishing the Laguna since the '50s which was during the commercial fishing days, three freezes over the years which killed millions of trout redfish and drum, brown tides, red tide (in the very upper Laguna) and droughts and we still have trout today. Being proactive is one thing, but there is still a balance that can be kept and I'll bet you even if the trout limits isn't lowered your grandchildren will have trout.
You really need to worry more about freezes on the Texas coast....a lot more devastation. I've seen it up close.
Have a good one
Well said, sir.
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TroutSlayer Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 432
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Bay Grinder wrote: | | I support the change so we can be proactive for increase of fishing pressure. In general the state is increasing in population as well as numbers of new fisherman. Maybe we can wait on it longer, but eventually we will revisit this issue again. And when we reach the threshold and have truly overfished, did we all get our fair share? |
I really get tired of trying to educate those who just think they know what is happening to our fishery because someone said so. Let's start with TPWD has repeatedly said that fishing pressure rose on the 90s, tapered off in the 2000s and has slightly decreased in recent years. these are the people who gather the data via creel studies and license sales. TPWD has clearly stated we ARE NOT overfishing trout and levels of off take are SUSTAINABLE. This move is all about the belief that we can catch bigger fish more often. It isn't working very well in the LLM but hey they have computers that say it will influence what mother nature controls. _________________ Wish I Were in Baffin |
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FoldCatOne Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 1159 Location: Kerrville
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:11 am Post subject: |
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The most interesting observation is that "5 is enough" is proposed primarily by people who live locally in the Corpus area and have no "possession" limit because it doesn't apply to their home freezer VS people who live out of town who have the Possession limit apply directly to them. If they change the limit the possession limit should apply tow ALL fishermen. If you haven't eaten yesterdays 5 trout, you shouldn't be able to keep any today - no storing them up in the freezer for a big fish fry. I can't do it - neither should you. If you want a fish fry, then go to HEB and buy the fish filets just like you propose I do. _________________ Gary J
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