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shorty
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| will " Sequester " affect PINS ? |
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shallowsport
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| Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| My guess, yes. National Parks, since considered non-essential, will likely take some hard hits. Just my guess. |
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4theReels
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I am not sure what will happen there....but what a shame.
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cdhknives
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The actually short term impact of the 'sequester' is a trivial % of this year's budget.
| Quote: | | The sequester refers to broad, shallow reductions to the planned increases in spending in the United States federal budget. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Sequestration
It might get real in a few years, but for now don't buy into the hype and hysteria of DC politics. The .gov is still increasing spending, just not as much. 
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Chef Lefty
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:18 am Post subject: |
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If sequester happens, all of Padre Island will break away, floating out to sea never to be seen again!!!
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iYak
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| cdhknives wrote: | The actually short term impact of the 'sequester' is a trivial % of this year's budget.
| Quote: | | The sequester refers to broad, shallow reductions to the planned increases in spending in the United States federal budget. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Sequestration
It might get real in a few years, but for now don't buy into the hype and hysteria of DC politics. The .gov is still increasing spending, just not as much. |
It might be trivial to you, but if it is not resolved by April 25, every civilian employee in Dept. of Defense gets hit with a 20% cut in salary. We will be furloughed one day a week for 22 weeks, for this year. Who knows what next year will bring. (Furloughed means we have to stay home and don't get paid for that day. And we can't use vacation time...it has to be unpaid.) Many government civilians in other agencies face the same situation, although DoD is getting hit harder so we will have more furlough days.
I don't consider that trivial, and it is certainly isn't going to take a few years to get real. I'ts pretty darn scary right now. |
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Granite Guy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: effect to pins |
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Hog wash, This year Washington will spend several billons more than last years budget. the sequestor amounts to less than one cent per dollar.
This is all about Obama grand plan folks, Turning illegals loose in Arizona is what all want to be dictators like Castro in Cuba and Chavez i did to try to scare the populas.
The second amendment is under attack for the first time in our country's history.
Spending in our country is out of control, and yes our kids and there kids will have to suffer in the future if our goverment does not keep spending money that they don't have.
The real concern i see is the U.S.A cutting back on the military strength
that has kept our way of life [ freedom ] alive . If our enemys see we rae week KATIE BAR THE DOOR.
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cdhknives
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:55 am Post subject: |
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iYak, you should probably push your superiors for more details. The total cost to this year's "budget" for the whole sequester is 2.4% spread evenly across all government spending. If your department is taking a 20% hit a lot of others are taking ZERO hit and you should be rightly angry.
The total is a 2.4% reduction. Lets see, still a net INCREASE in spending over 2012. Let's see, all wage earners took a 2% cut this year due to lapsed tax cuts on SS.
In the big picture, 'sequester' is trivial...barely a good start on what needs to be done to spending in Washington.
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Drake
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:10 am Post subject: Sequester |
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Either way it is a sad time. When our elected employees or officials (Pres., Senators and Reps) can not or will not take a seat at the table and negotiate a compromise we all loose. The uncertainty is absolutely holding back all facets of the economy.
And any time the Italian govt is working more effeciently than ours we are screwed - period. |
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NaplesJohn
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| cdhknives wrote: | iYak, you should probably push your superiors for more details. The total cost to this year's "budget" for the whole sequester is 2.4% spread evenly across all government spending. If your department is taking a 20% hit a lot of others are taking ZERO hit and you should be rightly angry.
The total is a 2.4% reduction. Lets see, still a net INCREASE in spending over 2012. Let's see, all wage earners took a 2% cut this year due to lapsed tax cuts on SS.
In the big picture, 'sequester' is trivial...barely a good start on what needs to be done to spending in Washington. |
Nope iYak is spot on wrt the effect on potentially 800,000 DoD civilian employees. Our "share" of the 2.4% reduction is one furlough day each week for a total of 22 unpaid days....in the short-term it equates to a 20% hit, nominally 10% for the entire fiscal year in our salary. Sad thing is that total amount of money in the big picture is decimal dust, but for those of who serve as civilian DoD employees we are taking a big hit, especially on top of a three year pay freeze, and the increase (return) of the full burden on the SS payroll tax. |
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Granite Guy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:36 am Post subject: cuts |
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Can you imagine DRUG TESTING, ALL WHO ARE ON THE GOVEREMENT TIT, OTHER THAN THE ELDERY AND THE TRUELY DISABLED ??
Hell i bet there would be a surplus !!
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Tyler
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I am not sure about how the sequester will affect PINS but the government shutdown a the end of this month will not stop the turtle program in any of its efforts. That is what I was told the last time we had the shutdown threats.
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ironmanstan
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If you have 5000 people losing 200 to 250 bucks 1 day per week for 22 weeks its going to affect the whole out lying area somewhere somehow. Not counting the loss of overtime at time and a half. The taco stands will be hurting for sure.
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NaplesJohn
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| ironmanstan wrote: | | If you have 5000 people losing 200 to 250 bucks 1 day per week for 22 weeks its going to affect the whole out lying area somewhere somehow. Not counting the loss of overtime at time and a half. The taco stands will be hurting for sure. |
IMS--need to increase the number, closer to 7K between both bases. CCAD is big, but not the only:-). Pretty serious money 7000 people X $250 X 22 weeks =$38,500,000 pulled out of the local economy if it goes the entire time....yup real money. |
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tbart
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| Welcome to the world of non-goverment workers. This happens to a lot of tax paying workers that get no notice, at least you get a notice and you still get a paycheck. You can always find work to fill the void. I have survived many economy down turns and you will survive this one it just takes a little sacrifice sometimes. It is better than having no job and getting unemployment. |
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