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BobBobber
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: Okuma Coronado reel - SITUATION RESOLVED |
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UPDATE: Okuma is replacing the spool. They tested their inventory and found no problems.
Therefore, this seems to be an unusual situation. Okuma should be OK.
A person who works with metals looked at my spool and here was what he found:
| Quote: | | The spool has a hardness of 32.8 on the conductivity test which means it is hard and good quality aluminum if line could cut it you could mash it with your hands. Looking at the mark magnified many times we determined that the spool got scratched somewhere due to the roughness inside the scratch. We tried our own scratch test and could not penetrate the surface without applying more pressure and we did not want to do that. Your spool got scratched somewhere somehow and went unnoticed until the line was removed from the spool. |
My original post follows for reference; however, disregard the information as a problem with Okuma spools.
The aluminum spool on the newly introduced Okuma Coronado reel must be a soft alloy of aluminum.
After my terminal rig got into a snag, I pulled back on the line to snap it off. Look at the photo to see a scratch into the inside upper rim of the spool.
Normally, I wrap several loops of line around my wallet and pull to snap it. This time, apparently I did not.
The Coronado is a newly introduced line of reels for Okuma that was supposedly designed for saltwater use. Much of the body parts are lighter weight graphite, stainless steel ball bearings, etc.
I have snapped fishing lines free of snags with countless numbers of reels for more than 60+ years, and this was the first time a spool was damaged in this way.
Aluminum spools are prone to nicks and scratches on the top rim of the spools. My tackle box always contains a small patch of 300 grit black sandpaper to smooth out any nicks in the spool rims.
Graphite spools are more durable and lighter weight. BUT many manufacturers that I have asked state that anglers prefer shiny multi-colored anodized colored aluminum spools, so graphite spools are not always offered.
The Okuma Coronado only comes with aluminum spools.
The Coronado casts and retrieves great. Plus it's 10+ ounces lighter than the Finor Ahab #8 that I have used for nearly the last 25 years. But the Ahab seems to get heavier and heavier almost in direct proportion to my advancing years and arthritis. Therefore, I really needed a lighter weight reel.
Next week, I'll contact Okuma before returning the two reels to Walmart. If Okuma offers a remedy, I'll post an update.
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Bighead
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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If it's not Daiwa or Shimano, I have no use for it.
I used to use Penn, but when they started making all of their stuff in China, I pretty much wrote them off.
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gaspergou
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I was thinking of picking up a penn battle. used a buddy of mines and freakin' loved it. smooth as butter and the drag was seamless. has anyone an opinion of these reels from long term use? my pal had recently aquired them. |
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omaka
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using the Battle 6000 for offshore tuna and I just picked up a 5000 for King Macks off the jetties.
I went to Basspro to pick up a Spheros but the battle felt so much stronger, tighter, and smoother..I'm a Shimano guy but I like the battle and have no issues with them..yet  |
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jonofre81
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Wow bob I had the same thing happen to my Penn 950ss I agree worj bighead there stuff is made in China its no bueno not even a year with it its a virgin no fish on it yey the frame cracked luckly under warrenty and repaired after a month
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ironmanstan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Probably a batch of spools that missed the heat treating and aging process and is still in whats call the o condition which is a soft state. However even in the o or annealed condition I find it hard but not impossible for fishing line to cut in to the metal. Shimano gives you an extra spool did you get an extra spool with this reel if so maybe it's in better condition hardness wise.
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BobBobber
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Coronado only comes with one spool in box. Stan, you know about metals, so you're probably right on the hardness thing. I sent Okuma an email and photo, so we'll see what they come up with.
Is there a way that the average guy can observe or even test to see if the aluminum is hardened? Most every aluminum spool is anodized in some color too.
If there was a way to test it, could we test the inner surface of the spool where the fishing line doesn't touch it?
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Bighead
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| omaka wrote: | I've been using the Battle 6000 for offshore tuna and I just picked up a 5000 for King Macks off the jetties.
I went to Basspro to pick up a Spheros but the battle felt so much stronger, tighter, and smoother..I'm a Shimano guy but I like the battle and have no issues with them..yet |
One thing I've noticed about spinning gear for offshore/surf fishing...they are VERY simply constructed, and the beauty of the Spheros is it only has 3 ball bearings...IOW, there is less to go wrong.
I am a big fan of the old Daiwa BG series spinning reels...the only downside is a lack of instant anti-reverse, but those things can take a beating and fish forever. I have one that is ugly as sin, and probably as old as I am, and still works great.
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BobBobber
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:46 am Post subject: |
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I was trying to get the baitrunner feature, so that limited my choices in brands and models. But the baitrunner reels are normally heavier weight. I might be better going with a conventional spinning reel to keep the weight down.
Weight of the reel is a major concern. Now, after a day of holding the rod, my hands and wrists are sore, what with arthritis and carpal tunnel problems. I rarely fish with lures, because it involves too much reeling, etc. I'm not just searching for new reels as a whim to buy the newest and greatest. It's mostly about reducing the pain. My trusted Finor Ahabs are just too heavy to be comfortable any more.
Also, I only need reels that are rated to a maximum of 15# or 20# test lines, so I don't need the ones with mega strength bulk.
Thanks for your comments. And also those from other forum members. I'll look into the reels you like. Are any models that you use in lighter weights? |
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Bighead
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Bob,
When I'm fishing live or dead bait on the bottom, especially with spider weights that hold well, I'll crank the line down until it's fairly tight, then loosen the drag (On spinners or casting) until it's just holding the line...this will allow the fish to pick it up and move off with it, and not jerk the thing out of a rod holder or sand spike. When I fight the fish, I simply adjust the drag appropriately.
Poor mans/light weight bait runner.
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ironmanstan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| BobBobber wrote: | Coronado only comes with one spool in box. Stan, you know about metals, so you're probably right on the hardness thing. I sent Okuma an email and photo, so we'll see what they come up with.
Is there a way that the average guy can observe or even test to see if the aluminum is hardened? Most every aluminum spool is anodized in some color too.
If there was a way to test it, could we test the inner surface of the spool where the fishing line doesn't touch it? |
You can check any surface of the spool to detrermine hardness, one way is with the electrical condutivity which does not damage the surface. Another way is with a ball hardness which will leave a very small shallow indent in the metal. I'm pretty sure they are using 6061 aluminum or they should be. Or it's a 5052 ...either way it's soft.
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