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blackhawk78418 Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 771 Location: Bluffrat since 84
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: Is it really all in the drag setting? |
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| Saw a post saying its all in the drag setting as to being able to land a larger fish than you line # or something like that. set the drag light to land heavy fish. Always thought it was the rod that does the work, keep enough pressure on the fish and let the line come off very slow when the fish makes its run. I've landed some fish this way and if I loose a fish it's not the line that fails its the tackle quick clip, swivel, or a knot. Never had a line jus snap or pop between my tackle and rod.Landed a 33" red a couple weeks ago with a 2500 Shimano, a 7' med act rod 15# braid-6#mono dia. Only took 2-3mins. Also landed a 43" Kingfish same rig with a 50# wire leader. Got spooled by a Jack on same rig with my drag cranked all the way down. IDK maybe I jus said the same thing. How does everyone have their drag set? |
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hickroots07 Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 1714 Location: cc, TEXAS!
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Drag and line capacity are probably bigger factors than the rod you pair up with the reel. Sure you can land huge fish on light line, but do you have enough line so that when it makes its runs that it can without spooling you. Its a give and take thing. Of course it goes the other way too. Load up a small reel with too heavy line and you sacrifice the amount of line you can put on, but you could horse in some fish without a fight. I think the rod does play a big role, but takes a back seat to line size and capacity. |
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AcousTennis Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 13 Sep 2010 Posts: 1319
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Its all about the drag ...
at least i think so..
get your hook set and if its making strong runs then let it run under pressure
even in 10lb test if your going to be broken off its going to be
10% found something sharp
10% fray in the line
10% weak knot
70% applying to much drag and getting anxious
Dont be afraid of getting spooled...
dont lock your drag to early....if you do then your basically hoping your knot wont bust..
leave the pressure on em for the last few wraps around the reel, if you lock down then your robbing your own chance of landing a good fish _________________
| ltorna1 wrote: | | I can just imagine a prehistoric nomadic version of AcousticTennis, padding around in a dugout canou with long unkempt hair (not much a stretch lol), catching drum on some 3000 BC version of fishbites. |
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THE_BLUFF_RAT Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1056 Location: the bluff
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I also believe drag is the key. I caught this beautiful girl down PINS with 10 pound test line and those tiny bait hooks with a piece of shrimp no bigger than a fingernail. Its all about the drag...
 _________________ "When times are tough,
and the flocks are small,
take your time,
and kill them all" |
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ironmanstan Exalted Ruler of Flour Bluff

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 12256
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:13 am Post subject: |
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A good drag comes along with a good reel. The bend of your rod is a big factor . I use 8lb test always have unless i'm in a reef area with lots of shell. I set my drag and control it by feel with my hand on the spool sometimes I find it works really good. _________________ I LIKE MINE FRIED. |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:34 am Post subject: |
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You can't use light drag settings and/or light line when targeting big fish around cover/stricture and hope to get many out of there, strong rod or no. Fighting a big fish that was hooked in the rocks and one that's hooked in the surf are two totally different worlds and take two totally different mindsets.
As always, one has to compromise somewhere as far as line and/or leader strength and type (mono, fluoro, etc.) and rod/reel are concerned. You can use the heaviest gear around with the drag basically locked down and not loose much, but at the same time you may not hook much to lose because of some species being smart and/or line shy..... mangrove snapper are the perfect example, especially if the water is on the clear side. _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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THE_BLUFF_RAT Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 1056 Location: the bluff
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| landlocked beachbum wrote: | | Fighting a big fish that was hooked in the rocks and one that's hooked in the surf are two totally different worlds and take two totally different mindsets. |
not exactly true. i fish the rocks with 12# mono.......EVERYTIME. as a matter of fact, thats what i fish with everywhere except the surf. very rarely use fluro leaders or braid unless offshore. i even caught jacks on my 12# setup. all a matter of preference i guess. _________________ "When times are tough,
and the flocks are small,
take your time,
and kill them all" |
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landlocked beachbum Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 5811 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:26 am Post subject: |
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BR, I never said that catching fish in or close to the rocks with a lighter setup was impossible, I've done plenty of it! I specifically said "big fish" and was referring to those who like to live among rocks, like snapper and the like, and fish which also head for the rocks when hooked. Some fish don't, and again, I'm talking big fish. Many species simply head for Louisiana, Cuba or whatever when hooked. This of course means that lighter line and drag settings can successfully be used in dealing with them.
I might also add that I'm not speaking of fishing close to or near the rocks, wrecks, reefs, piling, etc. I'm talking about fishing IN them as I did for 12 days down in Florida recently. I broke off many fish using 30 lb braid and 40 lb leaders because the fish that I was hooking were "rock hounds", but then again, I'd never have hooked them to begin with if I had not been fishing "in" the rocks! This was also with the drag set as tight as I dared for the line and a fairly stiff Shimano rod, yet I still got rocked or wrecked at least a half dozen times or more. Using light line/light drag settings in these situations would have been similar to showing up at a gunfight with a knife!
I always use the lightest gear possible with a reasonable chance at taking home supper for any fishing situation. "Reasonable" to me means a darn good chance of not just hooking, but landing my sought quarry. _________________ Dave
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein |
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FishLady Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 715 Location: Aransas Pass, Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, drag!!
+2 _________________ FishLady
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