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landlocked beachbum · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:13 am Post subject:

"Someone was taking video of them from OFF their boat which means that for at least some of the trip that had support. If you have support you don't have to worry about carrying enough fuel, water, food, medicine, spare engine parts, etc. "

Seems like I said this 5 posts back. Cool

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frayed · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject:

I dunno. That's pretty wild, takes a lot of balls and a lot of support. Is that Majek??? Noble cause, hard to not make you pause and feel a little something.
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bk005 · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject:

Yeah not sure whats up with all the nay sayers. Noble cause, and he was not looking for attention. Video clearly shows he stopped and got support at differnet places. Does that make it any less amazing, not in my mind. Amazing voyage, not for the meek for sure.

If everyone was like some of you posters, Columbus would have never made it over.

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:36 am Post subject:

I for one already said that it was for a noble cause, BUT, crossing an unknown ocean with NO support, crappy food and water, no sunscreen, sleeping on deck, months of boredom and the very real chance of death is way different than crossing a known distance of water with the very real chance that you will survive even if your craft doesn't.

I've made this point to my wife before: as bad as life was at sea until the 20th century, just imagine how bad it had to be ON LAND for people to choose and volunteer to GO to sea!!! Shocked

Then there's always the old parable out Columbus: He didn't know where he was going when he left, he didn't know where he was when he got there and he didn't know where he'd been when he returned!!! Wink

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Bluffer · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:04 am Post subject:

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:37 am Post subject:

Yeah.................... I wonder if they still teach that crap in school? From what I've learned since then it was relatively common knowledge to mariners of the time that the world was round.

Just like the BS they taught us about GW and the stupid cherry tree!!!! Evil or Very Mad

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Mariner · Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 9

Even by Colubus' time they had the basic rudiments of celestial navigation "under development", and mathematicians had already accurately calculated the circumference of the earth. Of course not everyone accepted it, and it would a few hundred more years until the development of an accurate timepiece before it was possible to calculate longitude. Mariners of the day used parallel sailings. Namely they sailed N or S to the desired latitude of their arrival and then E or W to their destination. The Celts, The Norse and others certainly predated Columbus in N. America while others had been fishing the Grand Banks as well.

But anyway, if these guys had a support vessel following them then this is certainly different than going it alone. If not and they went alone then I stand by my previous statements that this was a foolish venture. I spend about half of my life on the sea and I've been out in enough really nasty weather to see how brutal things can get, and yes, a few times it was a little scary even on a large ship. I'm firmly of the opinion that if your going to go and cross an ocean you want the best most seaworthy platform possible beneath you.

bk005 · Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:32 am Post subject:

Dude people still dont believe we landed on the moon. So considering the amount of idiots today, versus the years passed, and a linear function of dumb'ness per year in retro, I would find it very plausible that most of the pre-columbus population thought the world was flat.

This has nothing to do with original post.

landlocked beachbum · Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:07 am Post subject:

Some folks pull out in front of trains and 18 wheelers too............................................. AFTER LOOKING!!!!!!

You can't fix stupid and it's useless to try, but at the same time that doesn't mean that the vast majority of the population in most countries would follow suit.

Man, this is really getting deep! Cool

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swellcat · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:20 am Post subject: