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Bluffer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 4858 Location: The Bluff...Bring back the Porch!
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: E15 next if they get thier way. |
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If you thought E10 blend ethanol was bad for your outboard E15 is next if we let Congress have thier way. Eventually they will have it at 50% if they get thier way....Write or email your represenatives, more important VOTE.
More info from NMMA. (fighting for us)....
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NMMA Denounces EPA Partial Approval for E15
Partial waiver excludes boats, creates significant risk of misfueling and widespread consumer confusion
WASHINGTON, D. C., October 13, 2010 – Today, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced, as expected, limited approval for the sale of gasoline containing up to 15% ethanol (E15) for model year 2007 and newer motor vehicles. This decision excludes marine engines and other non-road engines such as snowmobiles, lawn and garden equipment, as well as other gasoline-powered small engines. The National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA), the trade association for the recreational boating industry in the U.S. and Canada, is concerned that EPA does not plan to take significant steps to address anticipated problems with consumer confusion and the risk of misfueling. EPA will also not take action to ensure compatible fuels remain available for the nation’s 13 million registered boat owners or the hundreds of millions of owners of gasoline-powered equipment.
This decision is EPA’s response to a waiver petition filed in the spring of 2009 by pro-ethanol lobby group Growth Energy. Last December, the Agency announced it was delaying the decision in order to conduct additional testing on a limited set of cars and trucks. Gasoline retailers will not be able to sell E15 until EPA completes a new pump label rulemaking, which was also announced today.
Boaters have been actively engaging Congress and the Administration on this issue, submitting more than 30,000 comments to the EPA during the initial comment period and contributing to the more than 26,000 emails to President Obama through www.FollowTheScience.org requesting that studies on all gasoline-powered engines be completed before allowing E15.
In a statement released today, NMMA President Thom Dammrich said:
“We are extremely disappointed that EPA is allowing this fuel to enter the market without the appropriate scientific data or consumer and environmental safeguards. This decision not only adversely impacts marine manufacturers, but creates a significant risk of misfueling for the nation’s 66 million boaters who will be left ‘holding the bag’ for performance issues and expensive repairs. We are astonished that EPA has decided to move forward with a fuel that will increase air pollution and damage hundreds of millions of existing products.
In the coming months, NMMA will review EPA’s pump label rulemaking and explore additional options to protect the boating community and marine manufacturers from incompatible fuels like E15.”
For more information, contact Mat Dunn at 202-737-9760; mdunn@nmma.org or click here to read NMMA’s full comments to EPA on the waiver petition. _________________ -STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!- |
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obsessed Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1200
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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it's fixing to get really interesting...last i heard and i'm still trying to find out for sure (100%) is that when or if E15 does get to the market, from what i'm hearing, if you have a vehicle that is 2007 and older, not only will you have to choose from all the gas blends, but you will also have to choose between e10 and e15 at the gas pump...
still trying to confirm that at the moment though. _________________ Trophy whitetail and exotic hunts on some of the finest ranches Texas has to offer, www.mcoutfitterstexas.com
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Eightball Express Horse Mullet

Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 198 Location: In your mind
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:48 am Post subject: |
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There are places in Austin (for sure) and San Antonio (maybe) that are pumping out E85. Be careful when filling up at the pump. Check for the sticker "claiming" up to 10 % ethanol. _________________ Looking for a River Pickle sunrise |
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cuzn dave Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 465
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I'm still trying to understand the benefit- alcohol may burn cleaner but it takes me 10% more gas to get same # of miles.
I guess if I was a corn farmer I might see the benefit. |
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Uncle D Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1645 Location: Third Coast
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I think all this is going to raise the price too. The refinery guys might shed light on this. I know av-gas is high priced because of the refining and purging process to get it to market. |
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obsessed Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Uncle D wrote: | | I think all this is going to raise the price too. The refinery guys might shed light on this. I know av-gas is high priced because of the refining and purging process to get it to market. |
all depends...if the Cap and Trade bill passes, God help us. _________________ Trophy whitetail and exotic hunts on some of the finest ranches Texas has to offer, www.mcoutfitterstexas.com
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Bluffer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 4858 Location: The Bluff...Bring back the Porch!
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Eightball Express wrote: | | There are places in Austin (for sure) and San Antonio (maybe) that are pumping out E85. Be careful when filling up at the pump. Check for the sticker "claiming" up to 10 % ethanol. |
Most likely thats a 85 octane sticker. Also 87 & 92 ratings. _________________ -STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!- |
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gonefishing Flour Bluffian in training

Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 335 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| We need to take back this country, plain and simple. |
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