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obsessed
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| ltorna1 wrote: | I have tried to stay out of this for a while, well at least as much as possible, but come on guys. No need to get on the guys case when he says hes willing to start reducing his personal dependency on oil. We all should. Obviously, oil is used for nearly everything. But what is wrong with using less? I admire it.
You going to criticize a guy and who rides a bike to avoid having to buy gas, because parts of his bike are plastic, and he rides it on a road made with petrolium products? Going to call him a hypocrite? Of course not, thats nonsense. You going criticize into a guy who wants to recycle all of his newspapers, even though he throws out a magazine and a paper napkin? Obviously not. Every little bit helps.
Its not a boycott on petrolium products, its just a shift in dependency, which requires a shift in thinking. Its going to have to happen sometime...
As far as the turtles and whatever else gets burned between the booms, its tragic, its disgusting, and nobody wants to see it. But I agree something has to be done with the oil, and burning it is one way to get rid of it. Not sure there is a happy ending to this one, it is just another sad sight in this horrible state of affairs. |
wasn't getting on his case, as in debate, there are always 2 sides in the debate and i thought this thread was actually pretty good...
anyway, you gents have a great weekend, i'm headed south, so stay out of my way cuz it's been a while, tight lines and see yall on the water! 
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gulftrout
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm fine with everything posted on both sides. I just got through going through my trash and pulling out all the plastic and in the process of airing up the bike tires. Glad I live Portland where everything is a paddle away!  |
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gonefishing
Flour Bluffian in training
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
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Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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All-or-none mentality won't solve this. This is a partial solution. You wouldn't power your house with a gasoline generator would you?
| obsessed wrote: | | gonefishing wrote: | I'd like to build/convert an electric car for short-haul use. It seems to be that converting to electric vehicle use for short trips seems to be an obvious low-hanging fruit.
-Michael |
so where do you think the plastic that makes that car comes from?
and also the roads you drive on? |
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rodandroll
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Location: Kerrville, Tx
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Oil Field Trash II wrote: | I have no idea if this is true or not... just like everyone else on thsi board...
but am I the only one that finds it just a bit ironic that BP happens to be "killing" one of the rarest turtles in the world?
it just seems that statistically, they would be killing a more common turtle if this were true.... not one of the rarest...
Is there some reason that ridley's turtles would be more likely to be caught up than other turtles?
as far as the burning goes... I'm not sure what people expect. They do't want it on the beaches and the marshes, they don't want the use of dispersents on the oil, and they also can't burn it.
the oil is there. regardless of BP screwing up, the end result is the same right now. To me, this just seems like the typical environmentalist process...
don't let it go here, don't let it go there, don't let it go anywhere.... it's like a bad dr suess book. My thinking is that burning the oil is the lesser evil here. |
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I think the envirotards are having a field day over this. I personally would not believe any story that came from an envirotard boat captain without independent confirmation. These people are the worse liars around and will make up and lie about anything they want in order to get their way. I smell a rat in the story. Shades of global warming, Al Gore - HELP, WHERE ARE YOU??????????? |
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JustOlBill
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Joined: 29 Jun 2006
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Location: Colorado
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: BP burning turtles? |
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| Boy, I sorry I posted that article. I had no idea it would cause all this! |
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Bigrock
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Location: Sherwood Tx
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: Re: BP burning turtles? |
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| JustOlBill wrote: | | Boy, I sorry I posted that article. I had no idea it would cause all this! |
After 20 pages on the "BP Spill Official Thread" you couldn't see this coming?  |
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obsessed
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| gonefishing wrote: | All-or-none mentality won't solve this. This is a partial solution. You wouldn't power your house with a gasoline generator would you?
| obsessed wrote: | | gonefishing wrote: | I'd like to build/convert an electric car for short-haul use. It seems to be that converting to electric vehicle use for short trips seems to be an obvious low-hanging fruit.
-Michael |
so where do you think the plastic that makes that car comes from?
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um, it bascially is, giving it all up, means, no more roads, no more plastics to use to build new cars, no more shampoo bottles, there's more to oil than just gas, oil is used in just about everything we use in life...
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gonefishing
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I'm tired of this thread. I am not advocating ending drilling. I'm advocating a method of lowering some of our oil usage. The use of electric cars for short trips is a very reasonable, affordable and responsible approach.
| obsessed wrote: | | gonefishing wrote: | All-or-none mentality won't solve this. This is a partial solution. You wouldn't power your house with a gasoline generator would you?
| obsessed wrote: | | gonefishing wrote: | I'd like to build/convert an electric car for short-haul use. It seems to be that converting to electric vehicle use for short trips seems to be an obvious low-hanging fruit.
-Michael |
so where do you think the plastic that makes that car comes from?
and also the roads you drive on? |
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um, it bascially is, giving it all up, means, no more roads, no more plastics to use to build new cars, no more shampoo bottles, there's more to oil than just gas, oil is used in just about everything we use in life... |
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