Corpusfishing.com

[frayed]

I'm not about regulation; I'm about smart regs and *enforcement*.

Anyway, back to square one. You, Trash, stated

"I have my own theory on what happened, which is basically they got in a hurry after setting the cement plug, and dicsplaced the riser too quick before the cement was set up."

Why were they in a hurry? What could possibly make them want to hurry the process?
_________________
Jeff

Get Busy

[landlocked beachbum]

I'm with you 100% on enforcing the regs that are ALREADY on the books!!!

This country would be far better of if congress started going back through all of the bills that have passed over the last 234 years and REMOVING most of them from the slate, along with getting rid of MOST government agencies. Instead, MORE government agencies are being formed all the time and more idiotic bills passed, laying down more idiotic regulations!!!!!

The one federal bureaucracy that does need to be better funded (hire more people) is the freaking FBI. Then turn them loose on a REAL investigation about how wheeling and dealing between a few congressmen and senators and Fanny Mae and Freddy Mack made the directors of the latter VERY rich while at the same time bankrupting the USA!!!!

They could also start an investigation into the wheeling and dealing between big oil and politicians, which would be REALLY eye opening and interesting! A congressional hearing won't do a damn bit of good because there will be way too much CYA going on for them to really get to the meat of the issue.


_________________
Dave


"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein

[gulftrout]

How about this regulation, THE GULF Of Mexico is being closed to fishing for the forseable future. There is NO justification for what is happening RIGHT NOW! The best redfishing spot in the world is being destroyed. There are chemicals being dumped by the tons to hide this stuff and no one knows the what the results from this will be. So keep on defending this mess, very few are listening.

[landlocked beachbum]

Who's defending?
_________________
Dave


"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein

[eksda]

right now all the regulations in the world arent going to help. we just all need to get out there and start cleaning it up then worry about who did what. let bp and the oil industry plug the well and the rest of us try to clean it up. then later decide who did what. it wont be long before that whole mess starts heading here to texas and god help the laguna madre if it gets this far.

[gulftrout]

[Rudy]

NUKE IT!

[troutsacker]

" But we certainly have a right to b*^&% about it considering we ALL have something to lose here. NOw of course we realize that there are the best minds in available working to get this fixed, but the bottem line is that there is a general gut feeling that this could have and should have been avoided. We are upset, angry, disgruntled, and understandably so. But it seems to me like your best explanation is that they had a plan, it just...well... didnt work. Or in other words...poop happens."

That's how i feel about our last Pres Election
_________________

[landlocked beachbum]

[frayed]

Looks like the clean up is going just fine. Nothing to see here, keep moving along.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-asks/story?id=10731680

There's a blurb in the story that is at the heart the issue I have raised:

An operator should demonstrate containment feasibility at increased depths, since it is clear that traditional measures are not effective. The condom didn't work. Now BP is going to try a Top Kill (I'm sure Trash will fill us all in on the details of this operation, but only if he deems the audience having capacity to comprehend such advanced concepts).

Here's what the article says:

"BP Delays Top Kill Operation

Back out in the Gulf, BP has delayed its "top kill" option again, moving back any attempt until Wednesday.

In a conference call this afternoon, BP COO Doug Suttles acknowledged that the plan, which would inject heavy drilling fluid into the well to stop it, may not actually work. Though the technique has been successful before, it has never been used at the 5,000-foot depth of the current leak. "

Again, another abatement procedure that is untested in deep water applications. Gives me the warm and fuzzies. Heck, it only took 10 months to cap IXTOC.

A few weeks ago the CEO of BP said 'the damage will be very very modest'. Now he admits it's a "major environmental issue".

Nothing to see here. Move along.
_________________
Jeff

Get Busy

[fishinglady]

Containment??? What containment??? We need to change the title of this thread. If you have seen the pictures coming in of the dead and dying birds and fish, the closed beaches, the polluted marshes that are breeding ground for all wildlife, the "toxic dispersant riddled oil floating just below the surface in huge clouds, the out of work and angry people along the coast, all you can do is weep, or get angry.

[Oil Field Trash II]

toxic dispersant?

the oil is there. No one wants it on the beach, no one wants it on the water. dispersing it in the gulf is the lesser of two evils.

fishing lady, I would hope you care as much about the dead turtles that died due to shrimping as the ones that died due to oil. your thread you posted a couple weeks ago seemed to just fizzle out after the discovered the oil spill had nothign to do with the turtle's death. Are they any less dead?


frayed, you seem completely incapable of understanding that operators have demonstrated plans for mitigating spills, yet have trouble implementing them.... not everything is fool proof.

toyota probably thought their accelerator pedals were pretty good, and the titanic probably didn't realize quite the issue that icebergs would be. people probably thought terrorists would never hijack 4 airplanes on the same day and make suicide runs, and some people probably thought Obama would actually bring positive change to the country. guess they were all wrong.

the top kill project is rolling along. They have staged about 28,000 barrels of 18 ppg mud that will be injected into the well. I can't believe they are being careful about the project. Perhaps they should listen to unreasonable people like Frayed, and just "cowboy up", and do it fast, instead of right. A top kill has *never* been performed offshore. I would think another day or two of planning and test runs is worth the offset to the project being a complete failure. From what I understand, they are saying the top kill has a 60% chance of being effective.

[Central Scrutinizer]

Thanks, Oil Field... For being at least a lone voice reason out there.

All in all, the situation stinks. But I'm afraid VERY FEW PEOPLE really understand the scale of the situation, in terms of the depths, that BP is working under.

[eksda]

fox news just reported that the desperant that bp is using is toxic. a report from exxon yrs ago said that the diesperant that bp is using is 4 times more toxic than any other ones that are available. once again bp is showing they do not care about life of any kind whether it is human or wildlife. i cannot for the life of me understand how al gore can say that bp is the best when it comes to caring about the enviorment. instead of the gulf we can now start calling it the dead sea 2 . and by the way the puppet president obama is coming to visit again. wonder how many happey people will be shuffled in to back him up this time

[obsessed]

here's a good presentation that represents what BP and all others are trying to do at present time...found this on TKF....figured i would share it here on this thread as well, i know i learned a few things from it.

http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kentwells_update24052010.htm
_________________
Trophy whitetail and exotic hunts on some of the finest ranches Texas has to offer, www.mcoutfitterstexas.com
www.baffinbayrodandgun.com