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Tar Balls in Key West

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Tar Balls in Key West Reply with quote

Well, it seems the oil has been picked up by the loop current. They have now found tar balls on shore at Key West. There are also reports of huge, below the surface slicks that are 10 miles long and several miles wide. If these take out the Gulf coral reefs, a lot of fish habitat will be lost. I fear that we better fish while we can because next year may be a year without fishing.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm completely with you fishing lady. Our inshore species depend on the offshore spawning, so not even inshore fishing is protected from this spill even if the oil doesn't make it this far, or into the ULM.

Did they complete testing yet to see if the oil came from deepwater horizon? Prolly a foregone conclusion.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is part of an article from a British newspaper. The no fishing zone has no been doubled:

There was mounting evidence tonight that the scale of the oil spill disaster in the Gulf of Mexico has grown beyond all the initial worst-case scenarios, as thousands of gallons of oil continued to gush from the sea floor.

In Key West, coastguard officials said about three tar balls an hour were washing up on the beaches at a state park at the southernmost point of the Florida Keys.

Such evidence suggests the damage wreaked by the spill – which began with an explosion on BP's Deepwater Horizon rig on 20 April – could now grow larger, with crude oil caught up in the powerful loop current that travels a much wider course through the Gulf and up the Atlantic coast. In response to the tar sightings, Washington doubled the no-fishing zone to 19% of the waters in the Gulf.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

be careful of the Liberal media
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry fishinglady, but that source is British and I only get my news from conservative Americans. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard on the radio this morning that the tarballs in Florida did NOT come from the leak off Louisana.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they cleaning up those tar balls as they come ashore or are they letting them sit there until Olbermann and Maddow can get their production teams there?...By the way, I just read that the tar balls are not from the BP spill...
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were reports of tarballs coming ashore in galveston a few days ago too. The thing was, the tarballs were originating from natural seeps, as they have been for tens of thousands of years.

The tarballs in galveston were tested, and were not from the BP spill.

I would guess that these tarballs in keywest are not from the spill either...

just out of curiousity, I wonder where the media coverage is from the huge kills of sea turtles that began after they allowed the shrimping season to begin early?

they had originally blamed the oil spill for the turtle deaths, even though there was no sign of oil on the turtles.

I guess it's OK to be environmentally irresponsible, as long as you're not an oil company?
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

floorguru wrote:
Heard on the radio this morning that the tarballs in Florida did NOT come from the leak off Louisana.


I saw that on the news this morning too.

Same old crap.......................... as Rahm "dead fish" Emanual said, "never let a crisis go to waste"! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil Field Trash II wrote:


just out of curiousity, I wonder where the media coverage is from the huge kills of sea turtles that began after they allowed the shrimping season to begin early?

they had originally blamed the oil spill for the turtle deaths, even though there was no sign of oil on the turtles.

I guess it's OK to be environmentally irresponsible, as long as you're not an oil company?


You are comparing killing turtles by shrimper nets to this oil spill?
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first media report about the dead turles was trying to link the deaths to the oil in the water. So I would say thats where the first comparison started.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, what I'm saying is that since it has now been proven that the death of the sea turtles was in no way related to the oil spill (other than the shrimpers likely cutting corners due to the need to get out quickly), the media has dropped the story faster than anything.

however, had any of the turtles washed up with oil on them, we would still be seeing reports about the same dead turtles...

The media doesn't actually care what killed the turtles.... unless it was the oil.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil Field Trash II wrote:
actually, what I'm saying is that since it has now been proven that the death of the sea turtles was in no way related to the oil spill (other than the shrimpers likely cutting corners due to the need to get out quickly), the media has dropped the story faster than anything.

however, had any of the turtles washed up with oil on them, we would still be seeing reports about the same dead turtles...

The media doesn't actually care what killed the turtles.... unless it was the oil.


All true. No argument here. The media only gives a darn about turtles if it can strengthen their story on the spill.

But the level of environmental impact of some dead turtles by shrimpers vs a huge oil spill are orders of magnitude apart, which is why I questioned your statement:

"I guess it's OK to be environmentally irresponsible, as long as you're not an oil company?"
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand by that quote.

apparently, there is "no story" from the turtles dying as a result of irresponsible shrimping practices (not to mention the volume of red snapper and other reef fish they kill every year)

I'm sure this spill will take it's toll on the wildlife at some point, but it's just amazing to me that suddenly the turtles are no big deal, and no one seems to really pick up on it.

we even had a very passionate thread posted here dealing with the attrocity of the turtle deaths, but once it was found to be an "oil free" death, the thread just sunk to the bottom.

the end result is the same... the turtles are dead.

turtles killed by oil company = HUGE disaster

turtles killed by shrimpers = no big deal and not worth reporting.

you have these "experts" in other areas too... people outside this industry making estimates of the volume of oil leaking... claiming absolutely ridiculous volumes of oil that are coming out of the riser.... and people are taking these higher, more dramatic estimates as "fact" in their reporting, and completley dismissing BP's estimates which are based on typical production values from the field they have been drilling in, and have the data for.

what are the latest experts claiming? 70,000 barrels per day?

amazing in the fact that the previous largest producing well in the GOM is thunderhorse which came on producing about 20,000 barrels per day....
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