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FREEZE FISH KILL---CORPUS CHRISTI
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sambo
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: skillzzz9 Reply with quote

Skillzzz9
Cover the tree with cheap plastic drop-clothes(I would do a double layer)
If you can put a space heater under the cover, if not just get sterno cans and keep it warm that way.
My grandad is 93 and has done this many times for his fruit trees. Yes it sounds crazy and a bit much but it is hard to see so much hard work go to waste. Pluss the suplies should be under $20.

Keep on fishing

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Sambo. Yeah I was going to cover it anyway, but the sterno sounds like a good idea. Maybe even a hot rock or two would be good. My tangerines are really really good this year. I got about two hundred off my one tree. Too bad you can't keep them all year.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what TPWD has released on the possible fish freeze so far.

Marshall

Re: Cold Weather to hit coast
Reply #1 - Jan 4th, 2010, 12:55pm Saltwater Freeze Events
When temperatures on the coast are predicted to fall below 32°F for three or more days, the TPWD executive director may close one or more of the sites listed below for saltwater fishing until the threat from the freeze event is over. This NOTICE OF CLOSURE will be made available to local media including newspapers. If you have any questions about your fishing area during a freeze event, please watch your local newspaper or call the nearest TPWD Law Enforcement Office.


http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/fish/freeze/

The TPW Commission in January 2005 approved a rule allowing the department to make 21 easily accessible, deep water refuges off-limits to anglers during freeze events.

According to Larry McKinney, Ph.D., TPWD coastal fisheries division director, Texas has about two million acres of bays and estuaries that are susceptible to freezes. He said that there were three major freezes during the 1980s, including one in 1989 when the temperature at Brownsville dropped to 16 degrees and an estimated 11 million fish were killed.

Historically, freezes along the Texas coast have occurred about every 15 years. “We don’t yet know how far south the Arctic air mass predicted for this week will reach, and we also can’t say with any certainty that we’ll have to implement the freeze event fishing ban,” McKinney said Monday. “But we’re getting ready for a worst-case scenario, and we’re asking anglers and coastal residents to please check back on our Web site over the weekend and to look for fishing ban notices at boat ramps and around deep water refuges if temperatures do dip below freezing.”

Fisheries managers will again evaluate weather forecasts Friday, and if a freeze event fishing ban is planned for any portion of the coast, a notification will be posted under “Hot Topics” on the TPWD Web site.

In addition to killing game fish in shallow bay waters, a hard freeze can also cause surviving fish to congregate in a few deeper areas where they become sluggish and prone to capture.

Game fish, including spotted seatrout, red drum, sharks, snook and triple tail may only be taken by pole and line, and it is unlawful to take or attempt to take a fish with one or more hooks attached to a line or artificial lure used in a manner to foul-hook a fish (snagging or jerking).

The high mortality that a freeze can cause may deplete fish stocks for years, according to McKinney. Protection of the surviving fish during the few days when they are especially vulnerable to capture would likely shorten the time period for overall recovery of coastal species, especially spotted sea trout.

McKinney urged anglers and coastal residents to report any fish kills or large numbers of sluggish or cold-stunned fish to 1-800-792-1112.

A complete list of coastal areas that may be closed to fishing during freeze conditions may be found in the TPW Outdoor Annual online.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that's funny right there.... I don't care who you are.

"Mc Kinney" is now the Director of the Harte Institute and no longer at TPWD. Maybe somebody ought to update that press release. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO the kill back in the 80s was bad yes it was. The temps were in the 20s for over 5 days in a rwo it stayed in the 20s for almost a week. So do the math will we have a fiasf kill I say NO.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember clearly the 80s kills and it wasn't pretty. BUT if the predictions do not get any worse than they are right now we should be fine. In the 80s the fronts hit hard, fast and stayed in the 20s for a while. This one is coming on the heels of already cold temps and the fish know what to do if they have the time...and it is not near as cold. We should be fine but man between red tide and now freezing weather I am beginning to think someone is stacking the deck.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The drought, red tide, predicted freeze and the recent bait season slaughter has, and will no doubt have an impact on our fishery. With all of this concern about the depletion of fish stocks in our area, why don't we make a concious effort to let a few go and start lowering our personal limits? Regardless of if you have fish in the freezer, or a camera handy, it's especially important to let the big girls go. Personally, I have seen a drop in my Spring/Summer catch rate, and most of the big trout spots I have fished Winters past are just covered with waders now. Again...ask the upper coast fishermen if they have seen a reduction in the number of trout caught and why they are flocking here to throw croaker, and or fish for trophy trout this time of year. I have, and I think you will hear the same answers. I don't think we want to start towing boats or paying for long boat rides to Mansfield or SPI in the near future. At least the State got it right there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What TPWD should do to keep any fish kill light during periods of below freezing temps is to halt the barge traffic on the ICW. These tug propellors are huge and turn over the ice cold surface waters and move them to the bottom where all the fish are hiding, thus stunning and killing them. This is the reason so many great fish were stacked up in the Landcut during the 89' freeze. There was talk at that time to limit barge traffic during these freeze times, but I guess the refinery money talks louder than millions of dead fish and a ruined sport industry?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skillzzz9 wrote:
All I know is that this is the first good year for my tangerines and this freeze is going to kill this years bud sites. Shucks, five years of careful growing going to waste.

Pick em now. just got 5 big bags off my tree.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Mike, it's been a while Razz .
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FB PHIL wrote:
What TPWD should do to keep any fish kill light during periods of below freezing temps is to halt the barge traffic on the ICW. These tug propellors are huge and turn over the ice cold surface waters and move them to the bottom where all the fish are hiding, thus stunning and killing them. This is the reason so many great fish were stacked up in the Landcut during the 89' freeze. There was talk at that time to limit barge traffic during these freeze times, but I guess the refinery money talks louder than millions of dead fish and a ruined sport industry?



read from the beginning, this was mentioned and has been adressed
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe.....a freeze don't care what the bag limits are.


By the way.....the dredging of the Mansfield (East cut) saved the fishing on the LLM Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Mike Singleterry wrote:
Joe.....a freeze don't care what the bag limits are.


By the way.....the dredging of the Mansfield (East cut) saved the fishing on the LLM Razz

Mike


10-4 and I agree. Fishing has stunk it up this Winter and all we need is a freeze to make it worse.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one could walk on the floating redfish,trout,drum, in Baffin during the 80 freeze. It was like a carpet. I was there, I saw it.

commercial fishermen...bah humbug! mother nature takes more than anyone could imagine.
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